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Old 03-03-2006, 09:39 PM   #1
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LB Chad Greenway at #21, CB Richard Marshall at #52, OL Ryan Colledge at #75 and RB Maurice Drew at #86.

Not quite so ridiculous anymore. After the lackluster post-combine reviews, these guys may actually fall right into our laps. I would dance a jig. Four impact players in three rounds with no trading required.

Start with two great solutions at our two biggest positions of need. Great character fits from coaches that sprouted directly from the Belichick coaching tree... and both true footballers.

Then two more players that fit the Pats draft profile to a T, that play with a lot of heart and productivity-- but dont have some of the measurables that traditional scouting techniques would highlight. Measurables have never meant as much to BB/SP as the rest of the NFL.

Stock for these guys are dropping, but I stick by our earlier assessments of each: they are good players with good work ethic who will be solid pros.

Please let it be so.
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Old 03-04-2006, 12:35 AM   #2
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I don't think any Pats fan would disagree with you. I love all 4 of those players and it would be a dream draft.
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Old 03-04-2006, 06:29 AM   #3
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Marshall and Drew have both increased their stock, not dropped. Marshall could slip into the end of Round 1, and I don't think there's any chance we get him with our 2nd. Drew has been great in interviews and looked very impressive in the drills, plus he showed off his solid build, some team will take a chance on him early. Too early in my opinion, he won't be any more than a decent KR.
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Greenway's stock may have fallen a little, but I don't see Dallas passing him up should he remain on the board.
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Greenway's stock may have fallen a little, but I don't see Dallas passing him up should he remain on the board.
Not so sure. The boys might choose Manny Lawson ahead of Greenway.
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I wouldn't want Greenway I would prefer Carpenter over Greenway. just my opinion. I think he is a poor tackler.
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Old 03-04-2006, 09:05 PM   #7
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I think Dallas will go OL in Round 1. They have an immobile
qb and struggled to protect him last year. That would be a
great draft. We still have a big hole at wr though. I think we
have to address that need on Day 1 too. If we traded down
to 33 with Houston and get there #3, could D.Hagens WR - Ariz St
be a possiblility? Seems to have good size,production,speed 4.44
at the combine. Then we could trade up from 52 to get some
defensive help. Wimberley or Marshall?
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I think Dallas will go OL in Round 1. They have an immobile
qb and struggled to protect him last year. That would be a
great draft. We still have a big hole at wr though. I think we
have to address that need on Day 1 too. If we traded down
to 33 with Houston and get there #3, could D.Hagens WR - Ariz St
be a possiblility? Seems to have good size,production,speed 4.44
at the combine. Then we could trade up from 52 to get some
defensive help. Wimberley or Marshall?
Forget Hagans. He has athleticism, size, speed, everything except for two teensy little things..

He can't get open... and worse yet he can't catch.

Great! Just what you want in a wide receiver someone who can't catch!! Johnny Grier would love to draft him, i'm sure. When will you guys realize that there is just no water in the WR well this year?
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Old 03-06-2006, 09:06 AM   #9
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I don't think anyone would complain about that draft. That'd be awesome.
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Every year you hear coaches and GMs talk about building their boards based on production they see on film and not fall in love with workout warriors. Yet every year these same guys see a workout that makes them go wow! and before you can say "production on film" the workout warrior has just jumped to the top of the board.

The rising and falling is almost always in the same pattern. Those that workout well at the combine get the early rise and those that have good pro days make the "late leap".

And BB and SP do it as well, see B Johnson for details. However the thing that BB and SP do better than most is they have a knack for knowing when to gamble and when not to and what positions they can afford to take the gamble. They have had a couple of solid hits early in the draft (Seymour, Light, Wilfork, Warren, Branch, etc.) and some very productive hits later in the draft (Brady, Givens, etc.)
But they have had some real clunkers as well. (Brock Williams, B Johnson, Reid, Cobb, Sams, Etc.) However the clunkers only hurt depth and were not crucial to team success. There was always a backup plan in case the gamble failed. And that is one of the many reasons why I think the Pats management is been very successful these past 5 years or so.
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