FreeTedWilliams

I thought that Levior played well when he was in there (just ask that Jets CB, who is still looking for the number of that truck that hit him). I agree that Vollmer needs to be the starting LT, trading Light for a 2nd rd pick is not going to happen. If someone would be willing to give up a 3rd, I'd say take it, but more likely will be that he gets cut or traded for a much lower rd pick.

They can live with Kazcur (or even better move Light to RT if he can make the adjustment) they have Levior, and then draft another tackle and hope that they hit another HR like they did with Vollmer.

This team needs another guard first and foremost, that must be addressed before even thinking of replacing either Light or Koppen.

Plus Koppen is TFB BFF, so think twice before you move him out.

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Ochmed Jones

Interesting point and one that should not be overlooked if correct.

I go back to Alabama when thinking of the best zone blockiong OG in this draft, Mike Johnson.

In the 2011 draft BB may have a shot at Steve Wiesnooski's kid the center for Penn State, he has future "nasty" beast written all over him. And I love nasty on the O Line. I wish Vollmer had more nastiness in his play.

Jimke

It's time to replace a lot of players. Just make sure better players are

on hand before they are replaced.

KontradictioN

No. Koppen will do just fine as a center for one more year, IMO. It's time to upgrade the play of the RG next to him. Upgraded guard play will help the center a ton.

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captain stone

The answer to the thread title is: Yes, for the reasons you mentioned.

The need for a RG could be mitigated if Kaczur can show at pre-draft OTAs that he could successfully transition there. Otherwise, why did Bill sign him to an extension and still draft a Tackle in the 2nd round? Unless Bill doesn't know what he's doing; and we all know that isn't true...right?

Vollmer then stays at RT - for one more season, Light at LT - for one more season, LeVoir is the Swing, and Mankins is re-signed (I ass-ume). That leaves only the weakest (literally) link - Center. Could Lil' Richie O'Burger move to Center, a position he has never played in a real game? I don't know; but I do know that he's even smaller that Koppen. To think that Bill traded Ellis Hobbs so that he could draft this midget in the 4th round, instead of Lawrence Sidbury or Austin Collie or...anybody else.

I want Koppen's replacement on the 2010 roster. I don't want to wait one more year. It doesn't matter to me if he is acquired through the draft or free agency. And I could not care less if he's Tommy Boy's BFF. Todd Rucci & Max Lane were Bledsoe's BFFs - so what?

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Armchair Quarterback

How about both Kaczur and Light moving inside with Vollmer at LT and Levoir at RT. Neal may retire and Mankins may be a FA. I do like the idea of drafting the center from Florida or Johnson from Alabama but there are alot of needs. I have to agree with you on Richie O'Burger being a fourth rounder. He's too small to play guard and was an overdraft.

State

Yes. He was owned by Ngata on several occasions. And it looked as though they changed the way they played O-Line, with a guard taking on the behemoth NT during the playoff game, and Koppen backpeddling, checking out where he was needed.

It created seams, however, for blitzes by middle linebackers to work.

Koppen just looks old now. He's serviceable, but not against huge, athletic NTs, where he is eaten alive.

All this discussion occurs in the backdrop of our now foolish-looking decision to trade Russ Hochstein to the Broncos for next to nothing. He's the kind of player we were missing this year.

And indeed if Neal is done, Hochstein had a lot of life left in him. He had a strong season with Denver, before injuring a knee at the end.

What he did for us in the SB against Carolina was truly amazing. That kind of freakish strength Connolly I don't think possesses. Not at all. I never thought I'd say it but Connolly is like a poor man's Hochstein, and that's saying something.

So, yeah, we need a RG (Johnson from Alabama looks like a natural fit for us) _and_ in the next year or two need a center.

Hercules Rockefeller

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All this discussion occurs in the backdrop of our now foolish-looking decision to trade Russ Hochstein to the Broncos for next to nothing. He's the kind of player we were missing this year.

And indeed if Neal is done, Hochstein had a lot of life left in him. He had a strong season with Denver, before injuring a knee at the end.

What he did for us in the SB against Carolina was truly amazing. That kind of freakish strength Connolly I don't think possesses. Not at all. I never thought I'd say it but Connolly is like a poor man's Hochstein, and that's saying something.

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Completely agree that Hochstein could have helped. I thought they must have been confident in their backups on the offensive line; it is hard to debate Hochstein could have helped the Patriots this season, if for nothing else from a depth standpoint. Likely he would have performed capably filling in for the ever injured Stephen Neal.

There are a number of players capable of playing right away on the interior in this draft. I would like to see them add at least one in the first three rounds. The line of scrimmage is my biggest area of concern next season for this team. Fortify the pass rush, the offensive line, and the defensive line and the Pats can be back on top in a hurry. Oh, and make sure Sam Aiken isn't running routes in key situations next year.

Jimke

No. You can't shred the offensive line all at once. Neal has to be

replaced this year. I hope it is with a high draft pick rather than Connelly.

The year after, they Patriots may have to replace both Light and Mankins.

captain stone

What did we get for Hochstein, anyway?

And wasn't he our backup Center, too?

I was pimping Connelly during TC, mostly because I was tired of midget crap like Yates, Wendell & O'Burger. But Connelly has proven that he is substandard as a starting RG or Center. Too bad Al Johnson couldn't get out of the tub, because he's exactly what we need.

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