jsull87

First of all i would just like to put up a scenario. What if we did the same sort of thing this year that we did last year in the draft and worked out so well. Chicago don't have a 1st round pick. How much extra would they have to give up to get our 1st if they gave us their 2011 1st? would it be a 2nd? 3rd?.
i don't know the values but i was just thinking. If we could once again trade down get another 2nd rounder and another 2011 1st in what i will probably be a caped year. Seems a financially sound and good way to keep adding talent to this team for long term (2011) and try hit a sweet spot like last year of salary and talent in that second round.

Thoughts?

mayoclinic

I think that if BB likes the value where we pick, we'll take it. If he doesn't, he'll trade back. Last year he obviously liked Darius Butler, but he liked him at 41 much more than at 23. I could see the same thing happening.

I have a list of guys who I think are worth a 1st round pick for us. If none of them is available, then I would try to trade back and pile up the red chip prospects.

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jsull87

yeah i was just thinking it is an interesting proposition. Do you have any idea the comparable value for a trade like that? atm chicago is drafting with their 2nd at about 42.

If it went through then we would be picking s it stands now 42 43 46 and anywhere from 56-64. I think a trade like that could represent pretty good value and also let us fill needs if those blue chippers are gone by our pick.

Our 1st would be worth apparently 590-780 points depending on where we finnish. The 2nd rounder is worth 480. So something like that with a late rounder thrown in from us as a bit of a sweetener i like the thought of.

i also think something like this lets you go after some of those riskier olb/de picks as there is less money being given for that player.

mayoclinic

Chicago doesn't have a 2nd round pick. They traded it to TB for Gaines Adams.

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FreeTedWilliams

The Pats will already have 2 first round picks in 2011, I really doubt that they want to pay 3 first round picks in one year.

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CanadianPat'sFan

What about moving the other way and maybe trading up to #14. If a guy who slid down from the top 10 was sitting there that we just could not refuse maybe BB might move up and still have two second rounders in his pocket.

SF has two top 15 picks this year and I think our first and our 2nd, second round pick would add up to an even trade I believe.

carolinatony

I think that if BB likes the value where we pick, we'll take it. If he doesn't, he'll trade back


Whie this is a great idea, it doesn't help Brady and Co. win another SB now. We did not address pass rush this past draft and it has hurt us.
Grab a few pass rushers this draft BB!

mayoclinic

I personally like that direction. The guy I would trade up for would be Rolando McClain, if he were still available.

I could see SF being willing to do that trade for several reasons:

1. They will probably have 2 picks around 14-15. They may want to trade back and save some $$ on one.
2. They can probably trade back to the early 20's and still get an OT that they would like. RT is one of their biggest needs.
3. Their is a rumor that they may shift to a 4-3, in which case McClain wouldn't be their biggest need. Even if they do stay in a 3-4, they have Ahmad Brooks who could play next to Willis.

I could see CB Joe Haden or DE Cameron Heyward also possibly being worth trading up for.

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BelizePats

We currently have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds in 2010 and 3 in 2011, one of which will likely be a top 10. And we just drafted at least 10 players in '09 that are still with the team. Done properly, this 3 year stretch of the draft should lay the foundation for a highly competitive team through 2017. While there are no guarantees, this is about double the number of picks in the first 2 rounds that most other teams in the league will have the benefit of.
I am a big proponent of a little less trading down (quantity) and a little more trading up (quality) Many of the teams who will be drafting top 10 this year are in terrible shape and have big holes to fill throughout their lineups. There will be teams at the top of the draft who need to trade down to better fill their numerous roster weaknesses.
I don't know what it would cost but I would like to see the Pats move way up and draft McClain out of 'Bama. Our first, one of our seconds this year and maybe even a second or 3rd in 2011 would not be to high a price for this kid. Yes, its a steep but its one that I'd feel awfully good paying. This kid is a fantastic leader and a great player. This is the kind of kid you build your defense around for the next 10 years.
And we can still get a Guard and OLB help in 2010 if we do this.
Trade up, not down!

Ochmed Jones

San Fran would be an excellent trading partner if things with Wilfork and the franchise tagging go bad.