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Old 12-07-2009, 07:48 AM   #11
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1. Jerry Hughes from TCU (6-3, 260, 4.64 40 time). He has 11 sacks this season, is a good fit to play DE in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4, and could slip to the second round. I think he would be a great success in New England.
Any reports on his character/intelligence? He doesn't seem to be the brightest kid out there based on the interviews I've seen. Nor the best character.


I had some hope for Sergio Kindle but he hasn't had a good Season. Also some off the field issues.



On a maturity level, Kindle and Hughes seem like little boys compared to Graham.

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Old 12-07-2009, 09:18 AM   #12
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Keep an eye on Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan, 6'2 268lbs.
He's one of my favorite guys this year. But I wish he was just a little lighter. I'm concerned he's going to add a few pounds and market himself as just another 4-3 DE. As a 260-265# 3-4 OLB I think he would be excellent.

I'll be very interested in his actual ht/wt/speed numbers from the Senior Bowl and Combine.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:21 AM   #13
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True, but he could probably lose weight just as easily and get down to 265lbs which is ideal for lolb in our 34

Then it would just come down to how our interviews go with him and how much the coaching staff thinks he can stay at that weight

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"Watching Miller, it was obvious he possessed an explosive first step off the edge and had the burst to consistently threaten the corner. He did a great job initially dropping his pad level on contact and making it tough for opposing tackles to get in on his frame off the snap. However, the biggest difference for me watching them get after the quarterback was Miller’s body control and suddenness. He did a much better job taking an opposing lineman up the field, stopping on a dime and exploding underneath the tackle with an impressive “up-and-under move.” | National Football Post[/url]
I know Miller does NOT possess the length and size that BB prefers, and I admit, I have never seen the kid play, but this review has two things I think we desperately need in an OLB, #1.) SUDDENNESS/explosive first step and #2.) Change of direction/body control.

Spped rushers win the pass rush battel with their first step. Great pass rushers win by having a second or third move when the first step is mitigated by the opponent.

If these reports are true, BB can draft this kid, let Wocick make him strong while the coaches teach him to set the edge on running plays. He can play ST until ready, then let the kid play in 3rd and long or end of half/game drives.

Suddenness - explosion - this is what we need in a pass rusher.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:09 PM   #15
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What's messed up is we need TWO OLB's on our team.

Finding one is rare and 3-4 OLB/DE conversions seem to have high boom/bust potential (Vernon Gholston, Shawn Crable, etc)

Finding TWO in the same draft... very unlikely.
Finding one OLB in the draft is an impossible task for Bill Belichick.

He will defer that decision until 2012.

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from TFY Draft rankings wirh projected Rd drafted
I'l take 2 from each and we should find one for BB linkings

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1 1st Jerry Hughes TCU 4Sr Terrific college defensive end who projects to rush linebacker in the NFL.
2 1-2 Sergio Kindle Texas 4Sr Athletic prospect who usually lines up at defensive end in the UT defense. Breaks down well, fluid and fast moving about the field and effective dropped off the line playing in space. Must really polish his game and start to stand out.
3 2nd Eric Norwood South Carolina 3Jr Solid athlete who moves well on his feet, making plays in every direction of the field. Primarily lines up in a three point stance yet effective when occasionally asked to make plays in space. Likely a rush linebacker in the NFL.
4 2nd Roddrick Muckelroy Texas 5Sr Knockout linebacker with a great amount of upside. Athletic, explosive and forceful. Runs down carriers in pursuit, gets depth on drops and covers a lot of area on the field. Hard hitting and very strong.
5 2nd Bruce Carter North Carolina 3Jr Instinctive linebacker who makes a lot of plays on the ball. Fluid moving about the field, covers a lot of area and possesses a terrific closing burst to the action. Tremendous special teams player.
6 2nd Sean Weatherspoon Missouri 4Sr Explosive, one-gap/weak side linebacker who covers a tremendous amount of area on the field. Makes plays sideline to sideline, cuts the corners of from running backs and effective in coverage.
7 2nd Navorro Bowman Penn State 4Jr Outstanding junior prospect. Athletic linebacker that stands out in space.
8 2nd Thaddeus Gibson Ohio State 4Jr Developing junior with a high upside.
9 3rd Daryl Washington TCU 4Sr Underrated linebacker that can play over tight end.
10 3-4 Darryl Gamble Georgia 3Jr Good athlete who covers a large amount of area on the field, making plays sideline-to-sideline. Effective in pursuit and also in coverage.


ILB

1 1st Brandon Spikes Florida 4Sr Dominant, forceful linebacker who controls the action up the field. Stout run defender who jars ball carriers with crushing hits and causes turnovers. Explosive blitzing up the field. Fluid moving to the sidelines chasing down ball carriers. Struggles moving in reverse in pass coverage, but does show ability in zone. Solid first round prospect.
2 1st Rolando McClain Alabama 3Jr Well rounded linebacker with a complete game. Picks up coverage assignments, displays good awareness and makes plays sideline to sideline. Dependable versus a true playmaking linebacker.
3 3rd Greg Jones Michigan State 3Jr Dynamite young prospect in the midst of a terrific season.
4 3rd Kelvin Sheppard LSU 4Jr
5 3-4 Vincent Rey Duke 4Sr Aggressive and underrated linebacker who stands out in pursuit. Flows to the action, fluid changing direction and fast to the flanks. Offers potential at a number of linebacker positions.
6 3-4 Sean Lee Penn State 5Sr One time dominant linebacker returning from a major knee injury. Could be the best linebacker to come from PSU the past five years if he is able to get back to prior playing form, which he's been slow to do.
7 3-4 Quan Sturdivant North Carolina 3Jr Potential weak side linebacker who easily moves about the field. Fluid, covers a lot of area and makes plays sideline-to-sideline.
8 4th Joe Pawelek Baylor 5Sr Instinctive and hard-nosed linebacker in the middle that can be used in a variety of systems. Stout at the point of attack, shed blocks and attacks assignments. Limited athletically and may be more of a two-down defender yet very underrated at this point.
9 4th Josh Bynes Auburn 3Jr
10 4-5 Jared Norton Texas 4Sr Disciplined linebacker who flies around the field chasing the action or explodes through the gaps in run defense. Flashes on the scene and a sudden defender with a good degree of upside. Suffered a shoulder injury in September and will apply for a medical harship to gain another year of eligibility

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1st Greg Hardy Mississippi 4Sr Dominant difference maker on the defensive line. Fast, quick and very explosive. Creates a lot off havoc off the edge and makes plays in all directions of the field. Lacks bulk and out positioned by large tackles. Must stay healthy and keep his head in the game but a potential top six pick in '10.
2 1st Greg Romeus Pittsburgh 4Jr Athletic defender who is a big time prospect. Flashes power, explosion and makes a lot of plays behind the line. Expected to enter the 2010 draft.
3 1st Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida 3Jr Junior college transfer that's turning in a sensational season. Likely to enter the draft and a first round selection.
4 1st Ricky Sapp Clemson 4Sr Athletic college defensive end that may transition to rush linebacker in the NFL. Plays with great balance, speed and effective up the field or in backside pursuit. Needs to stay healthy and a big year could push him into the top half of round one.
5 1-2 Corey Wootton Northwestern 5Sr Dominant defensive lineman coming off a major knee injury. Takes over games with his ability to be a disruptive force. Big, athletic and strong. Possible two-gap lineman or lined up across right tackle. Need to improve the details of his game, develop more moves and just needs more playing time. Has been slow returning from his knee injury.
6 1-2 Cameron Heyward Ohio State 3Jr Large, athletic junior with a great amount of upside potential. Possible two game lineman in a 3-4.
7 1-2 Carlos Dunlap Florida 3Jr Big, dominant defensive lineman who has the makings of a premiere two-gap end. Destroys opponents and can take over plays yet very raw and rough around the edges. Top twelve pick if he puts it together and consistently plays at a high level.
8 1-2 Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech 3Jr Smooth defensive end who flashes speed off the edge while also displaying the ability to squeeze through blocks on the inside. Plays with balance, body control and a good athlete with nice upside.
9 2nd Jeremy Beal Oklahoma 3Jr Fast, athletic defensive end best in a conventional system.
10 2nd Allen Bailey Miami-Fl 4Jr
11 2nd Brandon Graham Michigan 4Sr Sensational football player who plays with a non-stop motor. Fast up the field, pursues with speed off the edge and a disruptive force who makes a lot of plays behind the line of scrimmage. Plays bigger than his size (270lbs) and constantly doubled by opponents. Growth limitations will knock him out of the draft's top two rounds yet a quality one-gap defensive lineman.
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In looking at OLB prospects on paper, the one guy who really jumps out at me in terms of size and speed is Ricky Sapp. At 6-4, 248, and a 40 of 4.58, he really fits that BB mold. While he has great measurables and a high ceiling, he is rather raw and would be a project at OLB.
Another guy who really jumps out at me is Sean Weatherspoon. Solid measurables, intagibles, and just a beast on the field. From what I am reading, he has the versatility to play OLB or ILB. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Mayo. I don't know if that makes him redundant or he fits the BB paradigm for a LB worthy of a 1st round selection. There just seems to be a great deal of talent at the DE/OLB position in this draft, but Weatherspoon sticks out as that one player who is the most well-rounded and likely to have an impact right away.
My dream draft would be to get Weatherspoon, Sapp, Wooten, Lindley, Ducassey/Sam Young, Andre Roberts, Jimmy Graham.

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In looking at OLB prospects on paper, the one guy who really jumps out at me in terms of size and speed is Ricky Sapp. At 6-4, 248, and a 40 of 4.58, he really fits that BB mold. While he has great measurables and a high ceiling, he is rather raw and would be a project at OLB.
Another guy who really jumps out at me is Sean Weatherspoon. Solid measurables, intagibles, and just a beast on the field. From what I am reading, he has the versatility to play OLB or ILB. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Mayo. I don't know if that makes him redundant or he fits the BB paradigm for a LB worthy of a 1st round selection. There just seems to be a great deal of talent at the DE/OLB position in this draft, but Weatherspoon sticks out as that one player who is the most well-rounded and likely to have an impact right away.
My dream draft would be to get Weatherspoon, Sapp, Wooten, Lindley, Ducassey/Sam Young, Andre Roberts, Jimmy Graham.
I'm not a big Ricky Sapp fan. He has disappeared for long stretches, is mainly a speed rusher, and is somewhat weak against the run and setting the edge. I can think of 8-10 guys I'd rather have.

Weatherspoon is a terrific player, but he's mainly a 4-3 WLB and brings a lot of the same things that Guyton already brings. Not much of a pass rusher.
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1 1st Brandon Spikes Florida 4Sr Dominant, forceful linebacker who controls the action up the field. Stout run defender who jars ball carriers with crushing hits and causes turnovers. Explosive blitzing up the field. Fluid moving to the sidelines chasing down ball carriers. Struggles moving in reverse in pass coverage, but does show ability in zone. Solid first round prospect.
2 1st Rolando McClain Alabama 3Jr Well rounded linebacker with a complete game. Picks up coverage assignments, displays good awareness and makes plays sideline to sideline. Dependable versus a true playmaking linebacker.
3 3rd Greg Jones Michigan State 3Jr Dynamite young prospect in the midst of a terrific season.
4 3rd Kelvin Sheppard LSU 4Jr
5 3-4 Vincent Rey Duke 4Sr Aggressive and underrated linebacker who stands out in pursuit. Flows to the action, fluid changing direction and fast to the flanks. Offers potential at a number of linebacker positions.
6 3-4 Sean Lee Penn State 5Sr One time dominant linebacker returning from a major knee injury. Could be the best linebacker to come from PSU the past five years if he is able to get back to prior playing form, which he's been slow to do.
7 3-4 Quan Sturdivant North Carolina 3Jr Potential weak side linebacker who easily moves about the field. Fluid, covers a lot of area and makes plays sideline-to-sideline.
8 4th Joe Pawelek Baylor 5Sr Instinctive and hard-nosed linebacker in the middle that can be used in a variety of systems. Stout at the point of attack, shed blocks and attacks assignments. Limited athletically and may be more of a two-down defender yet very underrated at this point.
9 4th Josh Bynes Auburn 3Jr
10 4-5 Jared Norton Texas 4Sr Disciplined linebacker who flies around the field chasing the action or explodes through the gaps in run defense. Flashes on the scene and a sudden defender with a good degree of upside. Suffered a shoulder injury in September and will apply for a medical harship to gain another year of eligibility
I really doubt we look at ILB in this draft. Guyton has been servicable and is still growing into his role. Honestly I think he's more of a special teamer and back up but BB is cheap and likes to get the most out of what he already has.

We also have Tyrone McKenzie who projects to ILB in our scheme. Cant' see us taking a ILB in the top rounds
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