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Old 04-15-2009, 11:51 AM   #1
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First off, I'm not going to predict specific players, because I'm bad at it, and IBBIT.

That said, I do think there are certain things that are very likely to happen, based on historical tendencies:

1. I expect the Patriots will draft a total of FOUR players in the first three rounds. My main reason for saying this is that, historically, EVERY player drafted in the first four rounds makes the roster, AND at least one UDFA makes the opening day roster as well.

2. I expect the Patriots to trade ONE of the three seconds—most likely #34, since that will get them an extra first—into the 2010 draft.

3. I expect the Patriots will use either #58 or #89 to trade up. According to the value chart, #47 + #89 = #33, so they could easily trade away #34 and still draft a player in the #30s.

4. I also expect the Patriots to use at least one of their three remaining "late" picks (their 4, their 6, or their 7) in trades. In all, I expect the Patriots will draft 8-9 players total.

5. I expect the Patriots to draft at least one LB in the first three rounds, and at least one player who can play S.

6. I expect that somewhere on day two, most likely in rounds four or five, they will take a QB to challenge Gutierrez.

7. I do NOT expect them to draft a punter, but I do expect them to sign one as a UDFA to push Hanson. I do NOT expect that UDFA to replace Hanson.

8. I expect the Patriots will draft at least one "slash" type player (WR/QB, CB/S, RB/WR, etc.)

9. I do NOT expect they will trade DOWN in the draft unless they can find a way to push the picks they accumulate into 2010. Drafting a ton of players this year, again, makes little sense.

10. I expect that, all of the above said, I will still, nevertheless, say "WTF?" at least once next weekend.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:56 AM   #2
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First off, I'm not going to predict specific players, because I'm bad at it, and IBBIT.

That said, I do think there are certain things that are very likely to happen, based on historical tendencies:

1. I expect the Patriots will draft a total of FOUR players in the first three rounds. My main reason for saying this is that, historically, EVERY player drafted in the first four rounds makes the roster, AND at least one UDFA makes the opening day roster as well.

Yup, I can see the logic behind this, roster spots are going to be tight.

2. I expect the Patriots to trade ONE of the three seconds—most likely #34, since that will get them an extra first—into the 2010 draft.

Again, agree completely.

3. I expect the Patriots will use either #58 or #89 to trade up. According to the value chart, #47 + #89 = #33, so they could easily trade away #34 and still draft a player in the #30s.

Not sure I agree with this one - I see a lot of value in the #89 area. I have more players on my board in the 4th and 5th rounds than in perhaps any other area of the draft, even that 20-60 range, which is pretty stacked as well.

4. I also expect the Patriots to use at least one of their three remaining "late" picks (their 4, their 6, or their 7) in trades. In all, I expect the Patriots will draft 8-9 players total.

Agreed.

5. I expect the Patriots to draft at least one LB in the first three rounds, and at least one player who can play S.

Also agreed.

6. I expect that somewhere on day two, most likely in rounds four or five, they will take a QB to challenge Gutierrez.

Again, agreed.

7. I do NOT expect them to draft a punter, but I do expect them to sign one as a UDFA to push Hanson. I do NOT expect that UDFA to replace Hanson.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them use a [comp] 5th, 6th or 7th on a punter.

8. I expect the Patriots will draft at least one "slash" type player (WR/QB, CB/S, RB/WR, etc.)

Wouldn't shock me either.

9. I do NOT expect they will trade DOWN in the draft unless they can find a way to push the picks they accumulate into 2010. Drafting a ton of players this year, again, makes little sense.

I can see trading down from #23, if it means grabbing a pick 2010.

10. I expect that, all of the above said, I will still, nevertheless, say "WTF?" at least once next weekend.
my thoughts in bold above ^^^
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I suspect I will say WTF at least three times.. and after I step back from the edge and look at what happened closely it will then make sense. Other than that there is not much else I can predict.. except that at least 2 of the first three picks will be defensive players.
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Well done. I think your line of thinking is really accurate. I generally say wtf, about 3-5 times with the Pats and 4,875 times with the league and analists. The Pats always end up making sense and as you say IBBWT but the league has to make BB laugh out loud like a minimum of 30 times during the draft.
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This follows very closely my own thoughts on draft management in 09, and other boards agree. A thousand Pats fans can't all be wrong, can we?

Knowing BB, it's not going to be even remotely like this, but will work out in the end anyway. Ahhh, football can't get here quickly enough!
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Not sure I agree with this one - I see a lot of value in the #89 area. I have more players on my board in the 4th and 5th rounds than in perhaps any other area of the draft, even that 20-60 range, which is pretty stacked as well.
That's true, but the Pats also have the untradable #97.
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I agree with most of the sentiments expressed in this thread already, and also heartily agree on the number of WTF's?.

I've been trying to get a gauge on the number of draft picks that we might trade into 2010, and here are my thoughts thus far:

This draft is quite deep, so it makes sense to stay in this draft.
We don't have many roster spots available, so it makes sense to move picks to next year.
We have some expiring contracts, and since it generally takes players a year or two to be comfortable contributors in BB's schemes, it makes sense to draft future replacements this year.
BB LOVES to have flexibility on draft day, so that makes sense to move picks to next year to give him these same options next year.

The above contradictions left me totally confused, so I just decided to think about what BB would envision as an ideal draft situation for next year in addition to the standard picks.
I'm guessing an extra 1st, 2nd, and 4th or 5th.

So, I'll guess #47 and a low rounder makes a 2010 1st, #89 makes a 2010 2nd, and then another low round pick or some combination makes another 4th or 5th next year. That would leave us with a good number of picks this year in a variety or rounds while still keeping 3 of our 4 top picks (23, 34, 58) and would set us up well for next year. Given the depth of this year's draft, I suspect that we might be able to find trading partners for the above scenarios. Let the draft picks earn interest for another year if you will.

Of course what BB will actually do will be brilliant in retrospect and dumbfounding in the moment.
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10. I expect that, all of the above said, I will still, nevertheless, say "WTF?" at least once next weekend.
I agree 100%. Kneejerk reactions, while dramatic in the moment, don't usually stand up to the test of time with a BB draft.
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That's true, but the Pats also have the untradable #97.
Hmm, very good point.
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I agree with most of the sentiments expressed in this thread already, and also heartily agree on the number of WTF's?.

I've been trying to get a gauge on the number of draft picks that we might trade into 2010, and here are my thoughts thus far:

This draft is quite deep, so it makes sense to stay in this draft.
We don't have many roster spots available, so it makes sense to move picks to next year.
We have some expiring contracts, and since it generally takes players a year or two to be comfortable contributors in BB's schemes, it makes sense to draft future replacements this year.
BB LOVES to have flexibility on draft day, so that makes sense to move picks to next year to give him these same options next year.

The above contradictions left me totally confused, so I just decided to think about what BB would envision as an ideal draft situation for next year in addition to the standard picks.
I'm guessing an extra 1st, 2nd, and 4th or 5th.

So, I'll guess #47 and a low rounder makes a 2010 1st, #89 makes a 2010 2nd, and then another low round pick or some combination makes another 4th or 5th next year. That would leave us with a good number of picks this year in a variety or rounds while still keeping 3 of our 4 top picks (23, 34, 58) and would set us up well for next year. Given the depth of this year's draft, I suspect that we might be able to find trading partners for the above scenarios. Let the draft picks earn interest for another year if you will.

Of course what BB will actually do will be brilliant in retrospect and dumbfounding in the moment.
BB alreready has a couple 4-5-or 6 extra now in 2010. That is comp for SnowAngel and Jabbar Gafney. Thank Josh for the future gifts. I think the Eagles will give a us 7th rounder in the WR receiver trade. I thought it was for next year.

In a draft estimated to have about 40 first rounders this year, use the picks and then move up the late second to get another one.
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