Why CB IS a need in this years draft - New England Patriots Forums

midwestpatsfan · 01-23-2009, 02:40 PM

Hi all,
I have been reading in a lot of the discussions regarding the draft that CB is not a need in this years draft and that the patriots should look elsewhere early in the draft. I have to respectfully disagree. Here are a few reasons why:

1. Ellis Hobbs- I love Ellis Hobbs, I am an ISU grad and have always stuck up for him. I was in class with him and was in a group project with him and he was nothing but nice to me, so I am a huge Hobbs fan, always have, always will. The problem is that Hobbs seeing his personality, I think that Hobbs is going to be wanting a big payday come next year, and I cannot see the Patriots paying him what I think he will be looking for.

2. Wheatley and Whilhite- Wheatley and Whilhite are unproven commdoties. Wheatleys injuries have to come into play in the discussion, he too will basically be a rookie next year. Wilhite played well at the end of the season, but his body of work is to small to say he is a starter in this league.

3. ........ my point exactly. After those 3, who do you have? I think a top flight CB is very much a need and would have no problem with drafting someone like alphonso smith in the 1st. Watching him at the senior bowl was impressive. He almost always seem to know what route was going to be run and while he does give up some size which will hurt him on occasion, he has amazing ball skills.

Any thoughts?

LuthierJr · 01-23-2009, 05:44 PM

You're clearly forgetting Wilfork. I mean come on....the receiver will never get past the 5 yard mark.

kurtinelson · 01-23-2009, 05:52 PM

I think that the majority of people think that CB is a need for this team.

I like Ellis too, but based on his current body of work, I cannot see him commanding a big money contract in FA.

***BelichickFan*** · 01-23-2009, 06:40 PM

I know I read something about Hobbs not really liking NE (location not team) a year or so ago, I forgot how good, or not, the source was.

I also expect next year to be his last with us. He's alright, he's been worth the #3 pick we spent on him. But he's not remotely close to a top CB. We need a good CB this year and hopefully him and Wheatley will be our 2010 starters with Wilhite as the #3 guy.

***mgteich*** · 01-23-2009, 09:46 PM

I believe that CB is a Day One need.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 01-24-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

I believe that CB is a Day One need.

I believe CB is a Day One possibility, but there are some good looking kids carrying Day Two grades and I'd rather spend Day One picks on LB (preferably someone with SILB potential - Sintim) and S (Louis Delmas is working towards binkie status). "If" NE goes into this draft with the three Day One picks they currently have (and no extra Day One picks in 2010), then I'm hardpressed not to consider rolling one of the three picks into Day One of 2010 with the projected DL draft class I'm seeing. If NE gets an extra Day One from somewhere, I'm still going to be weighing Barwin vs. CB. And I want a WR too...I'm starting to feel like a fat guy at Golden Corral (on a 20 minute lunch break)!

***BelichickFan*** · 01-24-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

I believe that CB is a Day One need.

We need a guy who can start in 2010 IMO. Doesn't have to be day one, that's just two rounds. Hobbs was a 3rd round, Samuel a 4th. I will sleep fine on Saturday night if we haven't drafted a CB in the first two rounds but they'd better have a plan to get someone who can play the next day.

Ochmed Jones · 01-25-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

We need a guy who can start in 2010 IMO. Doesn't have to be day one, that's just two rounds. Hobbs was a 3rd round, Samuel a 4th. I will sleep fine on Saturday night if we haven't drafted a CB in the first two rounds but they'd better have a plan to get someone who can play the next day.

I could see Wheatley starting from day 1 opposite Hobbs. I do not see any CB in this draft that is an upgrade over those two, provided Wheatley and Hobbs are healthy.

The best fit for a day one CB for the BB defense is Smith of Wake Forest. But Ithink BB can find a lot of CB value in the third and fourth round.

Of course the optimal choice at CB for next season is Asomugha of Oakland, provided BB can untangle him from the Davis web.
I like the idea of Cassel going to Oakland for Asomugha. Russell looks like a grossly over weight bust and Cassel's ability to run will serve him well behind that horrible OL.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 01-25-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ochmed Jones

I like the idea of Cassel going to Oakland for Asomugha. Russell looks like a grossly over weight bust and Cassel's ability to run will serve him well behind that horrible OL.

I didn't have you down as a Cassel hater!

Ochmed Jones · 01-25-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

I didn't have you down as a Cassel hater!

I am not a Cassel hater. I like the kid a lot. But I think he has proven he is an NFL starter and he is better than a lot of the chuckleheads starting for most teams. And I think BB will do right by the kid and give him his chance while securing an asset or two in return.

If that asset we receive turns out to be Asomugha, then it is a win win trade for both New England and Oakland.