BradyManny

How do you figure? I see a list of backups and guys on IR.

Beside, the notion itself - that a random person on the internet with access to 1/100th the information, resources, time & money the Patriots scouting department has could somehow come to better conclusions over a 4 years span than the Pats - is kind of crazytalk.

We all wish the Pats had done something differently from time to time, but to suggest that you by yourself would have done a better job creating this team the LAST 4 YEARS is about as silly as if I decided that since the government wasn't doing the job, that I could go hunt down Osama bin Laden and kill him myself. Let's let the professionals do their job and call our draftnikking what it is - an enjoyable, engrossing hobby.

ctpatsfan77

And, equally importantly, you can't look at success with one team and automatically transfer it elsewhere. For all we know, Bernadeau might have utterly stunk up the joint in New England, or Charles might have gotten injured in his first game, while Branch might have become a starter by now.

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patsfaninpa

Mine was Cliff Avril de/olb - Purdue. Not getting reg. time for the Lions.
Can it get any worse? And, still be in the NFL.

Wretch

Not getting playing time in Oakland?

jeffbiologist

Pretty darn good. My binky was Wesley Woodyard, OLB Kentucky. He went undrafted and was signed as a UFA by Denver. He was a highlight package in preseason, made the team, and has already started a game when the WLB went down. He is the poster boy of why the draft is over rated....he is a tackling machine that doesnt "fit the mold" of a NFL player. This guy led the SEC(!!!)in tackling and went undrafted and now has so many chips on his shoulder he wont have to listen to any Shanahan speach to go play ball! System or no system, I want players like that on my team.

dryheat44

He wouldn't be playing linebacker here...but I wonder if he could've stepped up for Rodney at SS? He's a hitter, that's for sure.

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Jimke

My draft binkie was Gary Guyton. Not doing too bad for a UDFA.

jeffbiologist

I bet you would have said the same about Guyton too. Bruschi you would not think of as a ILB either as a rookie. WW is a tackling machine, and with the number of missed tackles on this team I would suggest not only that he could have made the team but that he would see the field too. Football players like him make "defensive geniuses", but you are right.....I think he could have made the transition to SS. Do you think Guyton(who is about the same size/speed)has that ability?

dryheat44

No, I had Guyton as a LB. Isn't/Wasn't Woodyard 225 or so and Guyton 245-ish? I can't access my notes right now, but that's the way I remember it.

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jeffbiologist

I know they finished 1-2 in the combine for fastest LB. WW was listed at 219 at Kentucky and again at the senior bowl and 229 at the combine. My point was that LBs are a different breed....their DESIRE to play, to hit someone, is uncanny. If there is a position that a "square peg" can fit a "round hole" it is LB, think about all the recent LBs that were deemed "too small" ranging from Singletary to Z.Thomas, Bruschi and others. Fast, light LBs dont last too long I agree, Ian Gold was that type and he left the league relatively quickly. While its true they "fit" other systems better, once succesful in the league(given the chance)they are as resilient as any other player. Think of Flutie..... not many coaches would want to take a chance on the guy but eventually he became a very good NFL quarterback, not just a small scrambler. Its just alot tougher for some guys to get their shot.