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Old 11-11-2008, 12:02 PM
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I will be honest. Unless the pictures of Cushing floating around the net are bogus, he's not going to be on the Pats radar because of previous steroid use. I don't think the Pats want to deal with that.

That being said, could the Pats draft a LB in the 1st 3 rounds? Yep. Anything is possible. But much of it will depend on the development of Redd and Crable. If the Pats like Crable's development and Redd's development, then I can see then sticking with them. Unless, the players in the draft have a score 10 points or more higher than Redd or Crable. I don't think the Pats are going to draft a guy who is only a point or two better in their eyes.
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I will be honest. Unless the pictures of Cushing floating around the net are bogus, he's not going to be on the Pats radar because of previous steroid use. I don't think the Pats want to deal with that.
Yeah, true, they will def have to do their due diligence on that one.
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You do realize, of course, that by making this statement, you've now created a scenario where it doesn't happen?
I think he is spot on. Unless Mangini or the legandary BP pulls a fast one,I think mathews is with us next season.
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:35 PM
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I think he is spot on. Unless Mangini or the legandary BP pulls a fast one,I think mathews is with us next season.
I'm not saying anything about Matthews one way or the other; I'm just trying to understand why you both think it's so likely.
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I'm not saying anything about Matthews one way or the other; I'm just trying to understand why you both think it's so likely.
Has nothing to do with Matthews as a player, though he actually has gotten some meaning snaps this year in the regular D at USC. Belichick likes to collect NFL legacies (Klecko, Slater) and his dad played for Belichick during his gig as the HCCB (though that was when Matthews' best years were behind him).

Not being overly serious but wouldn't be surprised if it did happen.

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Pierre Woods says "HI".
Define priority. Do you mean it as a MUST HAVE in the 1st round regardless of the cost? Or do you mean, somewhere in the top 3 rounds?

Honestly, I don't see the Pats drafting an high round OLB unless they've wiffed on brining in someone AND have parted ways with either Thomas, Vrabel or Woods.

Also, I wouldn't count out either Crable or Vince Redd as potential starters. People on this board don't like to be reminded of history, but I am going to do so again. Adalius Thomas played in only 3 games his rookie year. In his 2nd year, he played in 16, but only started in 3. Even in his 3rd year, Thomas only started 12 of 16. Redd and/or Crable could make advancements and follow the same hard working path that Thomas did. Only time will tell.
Not overlooking Woods or Redd but neither have yet shown that they are either being used regularly or getting to the passer consistently. I hope you're not saying that a Demarcus Ware type of OLB wouldn't upgrade this defense a whole notch higher, because I doubt you're that disingeneous.

Getting pressure on the QB is one ingredient that has been missing from this defense for a while now, arguably ever since we let Mcginest walk. The Pats have a pretty strong nucleus at LB, but they could stand to improve in the pass rush department. In a 3-4, OLB is the obvious position to look for that pressure guy.

One person asked, does this OLB need to be a 1st round pick. Answer - not necessarily. I'm sure there will probably be a couple of good ones that can be found in say rounds 2, 3, or even 4. But the odds go down and the Pats will really need to do their homework to find him. Once the college season is over, the scouting reports are in, and the combine results are in, we can make a lot better judgment on who would desirable to fit this need.
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You had BB at "tight end."
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Jerry Mcguire reference... that's the only hint i'm giving.
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Not overlooking Woods or Redd but neither have yet shown that they are either being used regularly or getting to the passer consistently. I hope you're not saying that a Demarcus Ware type of OLB wouldn't upgrade this defense a whole notch higher, because I doubt you're that disingeneous.

Getting pressure on the QB is one ingredient that has been missing from this defense for a while now, arguably ever since we let Mcginest walk. The Pats have a pretty strong nucleus at LB, but they could stand to improve in the pass rush department. In a 3-4, OLB is the obvious position to look for that pressure guy.

One person asked, does this OLB need to be a 1st round pick. Answer - not necessarily. I'm sure there will probably be a couple of good ones that can be found in say rounds 2, 3, or even 4. But the odds go down and the Pats will really need to do their homework to find him. Once the college season is over, the scouting reports are in, and the combine results are in, we can make a lot better judgment on who would desirable to fit this need.

Go back and look at your history. Particularly that of Adalius Thomas. Then come talk about this.
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One person asked, does this OLB need to be a 1st round pick. Answer - not necessarily.
But if you're going to upgrade over Crable and Redd - and understanding that no draft pick is a sure thing - you're going to go with a guy with higher upside...to me, that's gotta be Day 1. Redd and Crable already have added to their value by experiencing a year in the Patriots organization, so whoever they add in 08 will be at that disadvantage when it comes to allocating roster spots.
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