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Old 01-25-2013, 01:37 PM   #1
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Although I still think BB trades out of the first round completely, if he can not find a dance partner, I see a couple of Cornerbacks on the board at the end of the first round that should intrigue BB.

Banks of Miss State, depending on how he runs, SEC corner, physical with lots of coverage skills and game experience.

Rhodes of Florida State physical at the LOS, not so much in the running game. Decent coverage skills.

I think it is very easy for BB to come back in the second round and grab OLB Chase Thomas of Stanford , moving Hightower inside and kicking Spikes to some "slow" folks home in Florida!
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:41 PM   #2
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I'd prefer that Belichick get a CB in free agency rather than the draft, but there are definitely some good options there, and you mentioned my two favorites. Depending how they run, I think both of them have the chance to be out of the Pats' range, though.

And it's funny that you mention getting rid of Spikes in favor of Thomas, because reports from the Senior Bowl were that Thomas was absolutely atrocious in coverage, not even able to cover Michael Williams, who is probably a 4.9-5.0 guy.
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Although I still think BB trades out of the first round completely, if he can not find a dance partner, I see a couple of Cornerbacks on the board at the end of the first round that should intrigue BB.

Banks of Miss State, depending on how he runs, SEC corner, physical with lots of coverage skills and game experience.

Rhodes of Florida State physical at the LOS, not so much in the running game. Decent coverage skills.

I think it is very easy for BB to come back in the second round and grab OLB Chase Thomas of Stanford , moving Hightower inside and kicking Spikes to some "slow" folks home in Florida!
It's the biggest question mark headed into the off-season if we don't keep Talib. Honestly, I'd rather sign a veteran than draft another one early. What do you think of DRC if we don't re-up Talib? He's been healthier and doesn't have all of the off-field baggage Talib had. I'd be less hesitant to give him a big contract than Talib.

My long term plan is to play Hightower at that flex-end position Ninkovich does now. Would love to pick up Ogletree with our first. Improves team speed at two positions. LDE and WOLB. If Spikes leaves at the end of the year, can always move Mayo back inside. Either draft a Sam there in 2014 or keep Hightower there.
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It's the biggest question mark headed into the off-season if we don't keep Talib. Honestly, I'd rather sign a veteran than draft another one early. What do you think of DRC if we don't re-up Talib? He's been healthier and doesn't have all of the off-field baggage Talib had. I'd be less hesitant to give him a big contract than Talib.
The thing with DRC is that his "character" problems are related to football. He sometimes just doesn't seem to care, and his level of play has gone downhill fast. He's got all the talent in the world, but isn't using it and really hasn't used it outside his last year and a half or so in Arizona. With Talib, at least his red flags are off the field and injuries, not competitiveness or desire to play.
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We’ve been told right now most teams have DeMarcus Milliner/Alabama, Desmond Trufant/Washington, Xavier Rhodes/Florida State, Jonathan Banks/Miss State, Blidi Wreh-Wilson/UConn, Jamar Taylor/Boise State and Darius Slay/Miss State as the top seven cornerbacks on their board. I was surprised what little mention Logan Ryan/Rutgers received. I was also specifically told that while Leon McFadden/San Diego State (as favorite of ours from last week) improved his standing during Senior Bowl practice, his height (5096) is an issue. Am also told teams like Jordan Poyer/Oregon State but speed is a big question, which is little surprise.
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Although I still think BB trades out of the first round completely, if he can not find a dance partner, I see a couple of Cornerbacks on the board at the end of the first round that should intrigue BB.

Banks of Miss State, depending on how he runs, SEC corner, physical with lots of coverage skills and game experience.

Rhodes of Florida State physical at the LOS, not so much in the running game. Decent coverage skills.

I think it is very easy for BB to come back in the second round and grab OLB Chase Thomas of Stanford , moving Hightower inside and kicking Spikes to some "slow" folks home in Florida!
Those are his likely CB choices as Miliner will go too high. Both have size. I'd still be inclined to take a DT if one is still available. I'd rely instead on the current secondary participants, plus health, more continuity and experience. A later pick in the secondary could help upgrade the depth though.
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Damn. That would put BWW around the 50th best player.
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Those are his likely CB choices as Miliner will go too high. Both have size. I'd still be inclined to take a DT if one is still available. I'd rely instead on the current secondary participants, plus health, more continuity and experience. A later pick in the secondary could help upgrade the depth though.
I had been thinking about DL until BB signed the USC kid from Toronto.

It seems to me that between Pryor, sometimes Cunningham and now this USC kid, BB is searching for someone to give him an inside pass rusher to get pressure on the QB.

Maybe, as teams facing the Patriots spread the field more, BB thinks a dynamic between the tackles pass rushers is a better option than the traditional around the OT pas rusher. A between the tackles pas rusher is a type pass rusher to give scrambling QB's fits if the outside guys are playing contain.
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I wouldn't mind two CBs in rounds 3, 4, or 5 via trade down. Hopefully Talib or Keenan Lewis is signed so our #1 and #2 CB spots are all good. Something like Leon Mcfadden and Tyrann Mathieu. I'd rather WR, S, OL, or DE be used in rounds 1 or 2.

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Don't forget as all the negatives are coming in on these kids that Talib was called athletic and fast but a bit stiff. he had the same wrap that a bigger kid like BWW had. This doesn't mean Blidi is the next Talib, but it's hard to put too much emphasis on what you read from people watching the Senior Bowl.
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