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Old 02-20-2013, 01:38 PM   #31
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If Talib leaves and Dennard's in jail, we don't have much choice. The top pick is going to have to be a CB or a S, with McCourty moving back to corner full-time.
Banks of MSU or Rhodes of FSU could be on the board at #29. However if BB does not think either represents value at #29, would he drop out of the first round, trade partner willing of course?
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:13 AM   #32
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Bama CB Dee Milliner will have shoulder surgery for a torn labrum after the Combine.

Rehab is normally be 4-7 months depending upon the procedure used. The arthroscopic Bankart procedure isn't thought to be strong enough for collision athletes but the open procedure naturally takes longer for rehab, in the 5-7 month range.

This could cost him draft position on draft day.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:47 AM   #33
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If Talib leaves and Dennard's in jail, we don't have much choice. The top pick is going to have to be a CB or a S, with McCourty moving back to corner full-time.
I think we will see the Patriots being exceedingly patient, both the draft and veteran free agent pool is very deep. As with most years they will follow this approach:
  1. Free Agency Starts - They will ensure that each position has at least a warm body or borderline starter (aka JAG). This year that will mean a JAG CB, JAG WR and possibly a JAG OT will be signed before the draft.
  2. Draft - Add talent of positions of need. I think they will look for a starting RT in round 1, secondary in round 2 and some sort of specialist in round 3 (Coverage LB, Interior pass rushing DT or a developmental WR)
  3. Post draft - Add a few UDFAs and fill in the roster with available veteran free agents.

This year more than most there will be some decent veterans available after the draft. Once camp starts they could add some bottom of the roster player for the 51, 52 or 53rd position.

In any case it is hard to see a scenario where the talent level in the secondary improves by very much. More middle of the round players thrown against the wall with the hope they stick.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:28 AM   #34
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Bama CB Dee Milliner will have shoulder surgery for a torn labrum after the Combine.

Rehab is normally be 4-7 months depending upon the procedure used. The arthroscopic Bankart procedure isn't thought to be strong enough for collision athletes but the open procedure naturally takes longer for rehab, in the 5-7 month range.

This could cost him draft position on draft day.
It's disheartening to think that we have to continue to sacrifice draft picks for cornerbacks. Dennard's troubles were a surprise to me, I thought he would have gotten it together, but what's worse is that many times last season he looked really darn good. It's like the football gods are mad at us

I'm hoping we might be able to address our cornerback needs through FA. I don't want to chance any more picks. You can't win it seems.
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I think it's clear we need to add at least one cornerback through the draft. My preference is for Jamar Taylor in the late 2nd round but we will need to see how they all test at the combine. Another option is drafting a safety and moving McCourty back to corner but I don't want to move McCourty ideally.

I also would love to draft DJ Hayden in the 7th - we can red shirt him for the year. I would then franchise Talib (I'm concerned about giving him a long term deal) or find another experienced corner in free agency.

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Hayden/Arrington (if money is there)/another JAG corner.

I don't think this is ideal considering Talib and Dowling's injury history and Dennards court case, but we will know the Dennard outcome pre-draft at least.
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Definitely a guy to keep an eye on. Could be the "who?" moment of the late first or early second round.
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Definitely a guy to keep an eye on. Could be the "who?" moment of the late first or early second round.
Tony Pauline suggests he might climb into the 1st

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That would be very Aldon Smith like if Cooper is taken in the top 8. Here you are thinking you got a remote chance of a player falling and then BAMM! Another team covets your prize and dashes your hopes early.
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I think it's clear we need to add at least one cornerback through the draft. My preference is for Jamar Taylor in the late 2nd round but we will need to see how they all test at the combine. Another option is drafting a safety and moving McCourty back to corner but I don't want to move McCourty ideally.

I also would love to draft DJ Hayden in the 7th - we can red shirt him for the year. I would then franchise Talib (I'm concerned about giving him a long term deal) or find another experienced corner in free agency.

2013:

Talib (Or other FA corner)
Dennard (Dependant on court case)
Dowling
Taylor (or other drafted CB)
Hayden/Arrington (if money is there)/another JAG corner.

I don't think this is ideal considering Talib and Dowling's injury history and Dennards court case, but we will know the Dennard outcome pre-draft at least.
Does BB attempt ot resign Arrington or Talib? Is Dowling a complete BUST?

If he signs CB Smith as a FA and we draft Amerson in the second round of the draft, do we potentially have the tallest set of CB's in the league?
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