Originally Posted by manxman2601
Phew. I was worried about how'd you react
It's three things for me that I'm not keen on with Barkley:
1. He lives off the screen and short pass. He throws a low percantage of his balls more than five yards downfield (50% or less). Hard to judge how good he is at the NFL level.
2. His INTS/attempt is poor.
3. He has the best WR tandem in CFB.
There are times when he looks like a top 10 pick but they're too rare in my eyes for a Senior QB on one of the big name schools.
We shall see. You never know, maybe the Pats will draft him in the 3rd and we'll both be right
I'm fine disagreeing with people about players, I don't take it personally. I watch each player and make my own judgments and overvaluations of players which is often different to other people or 'experts' opinions. If people have genuine reasons or opinions to not like a player like you do, I am more than happy to listen. What does annoy me though is when people use stupid arguments like he is a USC QB and Mark Sanchez is a bust so he will be a bust. But genuine, informed discussion I am more than happy to partake in.
Having said that, I'm not really concerned about the short passing. One of the things I love about him is his zip and accuracy of the intermediate ball. Does he throw a lot of short passes? Yes, but I think that also has a lot to do with his line play this year. He was forced to get rid of the ball quickly because of the constant pressure, especially up the middle. I also think his game at USC was similar to what the Pats run. Built around a short passing game and YAC, the difference is he had Woods and Lee instead of Welker, Hernandez and Gronk. I actually think that system at USC would prepare him wonderfully for this system.
I agree with you on his Ints this year, that is a concern. However that was one of his strengths in 2011, so I think there is a reason for it. Some of it is bad luck (tipped balls), WR's quitting on routes (Woods from memory) and definitely some bad decisions. I also think some of the shootouts USC got into forced him to throw the ball more which obviously leads to more errors. But I agree, it is a concern.
I actually see the Woods/Lee thing as a positive. One of the biggest things I look for when evaluating a QB is their ability to develop a relationship with WR's. If they can't do that in College, then I question whether they can do that in the NFL. We saw it with Luck and Fleener, RG3 and Kendall Wright, Weeden and Blackmon and even Foles and Criner. I think we also need to remember that Barkley has helped develop these guys into who they are. They are certainly talented, but they were also quite inexperienced and he put them into a position to succeed. Would he have been as successful without them? No. Would they have been as successful without him? I don't think so either.