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Old 01-09-2013, 02:34 PM   #21
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LOL......there's not going to be any executive order or presidential proclamation........unless it is for symbolic purposes
Dont put anything past King Obama.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:36 PM   #22
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A very high probability of Obama trying to take away our guns. Look at Sen. Feinsteins bill on banning guns. They want to confiscate guns. Obama said there will be resistance to gun confiscation. What Obama is doing is against our constitution and is not constitutional. An unconstitutional law is not a law!!
You realize that the term guns is not monolithic, and that said guns were banned as recently as 2004?
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Dont put anything past King Obama.
hot air......if it was going to happen, the obama would say something........instead he gives it to the retard....biden's mere presence make obama look smart
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IMO the first push will be to have a national gun registry. Not unlike what you saw in that CT paper. That is a scary proposition and a serious infringement on individuals freedoms and rights. First they need to frenzy up the mob before they light the torches to get the guns. They will deify gun ownership like a sex offender registry.
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As I said, feel free to ignore my logic if you find it lousy. I was just bringing up an example of a law which was made for a very specific reason, which to this reader, hasn't stopped the crime it was written to "stop".
As I said, no punative law can be written (well, it can be written as statute, but not as a matter of reasonable expectation) to entirely cease the action or activity it is designed to prevent. Cigarette regulations won't prevent people from getting cancer, food safety regulations won't stop people from getting sick, airline maintenance procedures won't stop airline disasters.

I see no logical reason why it should be more onerous, both in legal and practical terms, to own a car in this country than it is to own a gun. I also don't see some of the steps being considered (such as I outlined previously) as being particularly onerous or burdensome on those who would choose to own a firearm in this country.

To be clear, I don't believe we can regulate our way out of this problem. I think any solution, should one ever come to bear, will be roughly one part gun control, one part mental health reform, and one part cultural change. We also know there's a strong correlation between gun violence and high levels of poverty and lack of education, so investments in those areas can be expected to improve the overall situation as well.

I think the biggest problem in this whole debate is that the NRA has become a wholly owned subsidiary of gun manufacturers, and refuses to entertain even the most commonsense reforms that could be implemented. No surprise, then, that politicians who would desire to see some of said reforms are forced to resort to thinly veiled threats to action.

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Youre delusional if you think gun owners are going to go along with Obamas plans.

Naive too.
Yeah? Like they didn't in 1994?
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IMO the first push will be to have a national gun registry. Not unlike what you saw in that CT paper. That is a scary proposition and a serious infringement on individuals freedoms and rights. First they need to frenzy up the mob before they light the torches to get the guns. They will deify gun ownership like a sex offender registry.
If the state can order you to register your car, why can't it order you to register your gun?
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I hope Obama does take away all the guns, then we can finally cull the stupid people out of our citizenry.
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If the state can order you to register your car, why can't it order you to register your gun?
They should all be registered. However, I don't believe peoples adresses and home locations should accompany that registry. Individual privacy is the next issue with gun ownership, not registry.
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They should all be registered. However, I don't believe peoples adresses and home locations should accompany that registry. Individual privacy is the next issue with gun ownership, not registry.
Then how would you assign the guns to their owners? By Social Security number?
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