PatriotsReign

Funny, of all the people I know, I only know 2 people who have even gotten divorced. And you know dozens? Messed up crowd bro.

If my father came to me when I was little and said ..... oh fuggit. I have my beliefs and you have yours....so be it.

wistahpatsfan

I might know more people and they're not all my friends.

I know a lot of cops and firefighters and most of them are divorced or on their second or third marriage. We all know the reasons for that. Also do lots of work for wealthier folks who seem to be able to afford divorce more than most...mixed families and so on. The tradesmen I am mostly friends with divorce much less frequently for some reason.

So what's the difference? Kids often get hurt when their parents break up and they usually don't give a damn why. I guess if you believe that being gay is a bad thing, then you would have your "beliefs". I think getting married to the wrong person before you know yourself is a bad thing. I think being weak and screwing around on your mate is bad, too. Why would such betrayal be more accxeptable if it were with a "straight" homewrecker?

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Titus Pullo

you were saying something about stereotyping? oh, different when you do it, as we've learned.

you should probably stop posting for now. ... save yourself further embarrassment, on this issue, at least.

DarrylS

Always is interesting that unmarried people or people without children are experts on these types of topics.. compare to Priests...

As much as I do not understand why, know several people who were married and had children and later came out of the closet.. it is confusing, but certainly not wrong or right.

For some it has to do with societal pressures, a while ago being gay was shunned or thought of as some type of character flaw, so some denied their sexual preference to conform to societal expectations..

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IcyPatriot

I had a customer some years ago who married and had 2 sons. He came out of the closet when they were around 8 and 10 years old and that led to a divorce. This was in the early 80's and I did not have the understanding of it all then as I do now. The wife moved on as well as could be expected but the boys did not - it was rather ugly for them.

Now the older me realizes he had been living a life to satisfy his parents who were very strict from the Middle East. He married and started a family to appease them ... but he was gay from the day he was born. I saw him around 5 years ago and he told me he hadn't the courage back then to live his life that would have come naturally. It took the boys a good 10 years he said but through lots of love it all worked out as well as could be expected under the circumstances.

DarrylS

BTW Hillary was discharged from the hospital with Bill at her side..

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IcyPatriot

Very sad and ugly IMO this attack on her.

Hillary is and was an excellent SOS for the country.

Now I have been on this entire story from her being sworn in as SOS.

She is not and never was in Obama's inner policy circle like others before her - that is fact.

Hillary was more of an ambassador than she was a SOS because that's how Obama wanted it. I'm fairly certain she knows everything regarding Benghazi and also that she had nothing to do with policy there - that's how Obama operates. On that topic I think they would rather she never testified if possible.

But as far as her covering up on the story I say no - she has nothing to cover for except being part of the movie charade that came after the incident. I think if she had been a real SOS Benghazi would have never happened because we would have a more firm Middle East policy in place.

Obama has no Middle East policy - he shoots from the hip on foreign policy. Hopefully he gives John Kerry more control than he gave Hillary because we need more competence in the foreign policy area. Foreign policy was Obama's weak point when he was elected and it still is unfortunately. Then again ... we should be used to this because Bush was worse.

PatriotsReign

The difference is a gay/lesbian person getting into a heterosexual marriage is a lie from day 1. People know their preference before they get married. Just like one doesn't "try" going gay to see if they're gay, you don't "try" hetero marriange to see if it's for you.

wistahpatsfan

Lots and LOTS of people- gay or straight- get married just because they think they have to and don't know who they are at all....especially the women who are raised to believe that a big wedding is not only their birthright but their duty. Just look at those idiotic TV shows about picking wedding dresses! Has there ever been one about a guy picking out his tux?

The culture is set up to encourage marriage and having children- especially in the past. The only options for gay people was to marry a "straight" person of the opposite sex or to live alone and sneak around and hide their relationships. The people they end up marrying usually suspect something's not quite right but hang in there themselves. Some really love their spouses but can't keep up the chirade. Lots of straight people are faking their love and attraction for each other. It's the easy thing to do. Lots of people marry each other for money or looks or some other superficial reason. They are no worse than gay people who marry a straight person for convenience.

Most people who end up getting divorced do so because they married the wrong person too soon. Gay or straight.

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DarrylS

Often people go through life trying to live up to the standards and expectations of their family, despite their sexual identity.. know several people who tried to be "straight", had children and things did not work out..

No matter what it is very complicated, and to minimize this by using terms like lies, minimizes the conflict that these people face...

This will be less and less frequent, as gay marriage becomes more acceptable.. and as gays are accepted into the American Culture..

It is not black and white, and is not a lie..

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