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Old 12-28-2012, 01:22 PM   #31
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According to a new USA Today/Gallup poll, a majority of Americans still oppose reinstating the federal assault weapons ban.


Voters are still skeptical of reinstating the federal assault weapons ban, however. The poll finds that only 44 percent favor the law, while 51 percent oppose it; those numbers are nearly unchanged from last year, when 43 percent supported the law and 53 percet opposed it.


The poll suggests one other challenge to reinstating the assault weapons ban: the enduring popularity of the National Rifle Association. Despite CEO Wayne LaPierre’s widely panned response to the Newtown shooting, 54 percent of voters still have a favorable opinion of the NRA, compared to just 38 percent who view it unfavorably.

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You conveniently left this out.. this is a significant change and shows that there is great hope for change..

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The poll finds that 58 percent of Americans say they favor stricter gun laws, significantly up from 43 percent in October of 2011
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The fact that any human murders or is capable of killing another another is a concern for all mankind. But the actual death of a murderer is cause for celebration for mankind.
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You conveniently left this out.. this is a significant change and shows that there is great hope for change..

I didn't conveniently leave this information out. MrsPVA already posted that information. She is the one that conveniently left out the information about assault weapons and the NRAs.....I wonder why
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I didn't conveniently leave this information out. MrsPVA already posted that information. She is the one that conveniently left out the information about assault weapons and the NRAs.....I wonder why
How about the contradiction between what a 501c3 organization is supposed to do and what the NRA does???

That might be too deep, so skip it...
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People oft forget that the NRA is a 501c3 organization, whose primary focus is to insure that the gun manufacturers make a lot of money and have a lot of markets..

Just in case you are wondering what a 501c3 organization is,

Exemption requirements: 501(c)(3) organizations



How does this reconcile with this..

A Brief History Of The NRA




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And to further this goal you members paid Wayne LaPierre 970K.. there are others who do well in this "charitable organization"..

•$1,079,185 Kayne B. Robinson, executive director, general operations
•$666,128 Chris W. Cox, exec director, ILA
•$649,545 Wilson H. Phillips Jr., treasurer
•$502,296 Tyler Schropp, executive director, advancement
•$462,362 Edward J. Land Jr., secretary
•$396,860 Michael Marcellin, managing director
•$396,739 Joseph Graham, director of publications
•$363,997 Mary Corrigan, chief of staff
•$298,832 Robert Marcario, director, membership

Worth every penny.......



More than 20 nonprofit groups, from New York Presbyterian Hospital and the Boys & Girls Clubs of America to Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, paid top executives more than $1 million a year in 2010 and 2011, the Chronicle of Philanthropy found.

The tally, an increase from 15 such pay packages in the previous study, showed chief executive officers or other leaders at 23 nonprofit charities and foundations had taxable compensation exceeding $1 million, the Chronicle said in a study to be released today.

The highest-paid executive in the Chronicle survey, which was obtained by Bloomberg Rankings, was Herbert Pardes, executive vice chairman of the New York Presbyterian Hospital board of trustees, who had 2010 compensation of $4.3 million, including a $1.71 million salary. Houston Museum of Fine Arts Director Peter Marzio, who died in December 2010, was second with $3.94 million, in part because of payouts triggered by his death, the Chronicle said.

Among traditional charitable groups, American Cancer Society CEO John Seffrin was fifth with a 2010 compensation of $2.08 million, including $1.49 million in deferred compensation and retirement. Boys & Girls Club CEO Roxanne Spillett, who retired last year after 34 years with the group, ranked eighth with 2011 compensation of $1.81 million, the Chronicle survey showed.


Nonprofit CEO Pay Topping $1 Million Rises With Scrutiny - Bloomberg
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More than 20 nonprofit groups, from New York Presbyterian Hospital and the Boys & Girls Clubs of America to Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, paid top executives more than $1 million a year in 2010 and 2011, the Chronicle of Philanthropy found.

The tally, an increase from 15 such pay packages in the previous study, showed chief executive officers or other leaders at 23 nonprofit charities and foundations had taxable compensation exceeding $1 million, the Chronicle said in a study to be released today.

The highest-paid executive in the Chronicle survey, which was obtained by Bloomberg Rankings, was Herbert Pardes, executive vice chairman of the New York Presbyterian Hospital board of trustees, who had 2010 compensation of $4.3 million, including a $1.71 million salary. Houston Museum of Fine Arts Director Peter Marzio, who died in December 2010, was second with $3.94 million, in part because of payouts triggered by his death, the Chronicle said.

Among traditional charitable groups, American Cancer Society CEO John Seffrin was fifth with a 2010 compensation of $2.08 million, including $1.49 million in deferred compensation and retirement. Boys & Girls Club CEO Roxanne Spillett, who retired last year after 34 years with the group, ranked eighth with 2011 compensation of $1.81 million, the Chronicle survey showed.


Nonprofit CEO Pay Topping $1 Million Rises With Scrutiny - Bloomberg
So you didn't read the dichotomy between the 501c3 regulations and what the NRA says it does, instead focusing on salaries..

Typical, knew it would be too difficult for you.. go find a soundbyte, that is what you are really good at.. '
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So you didn't read the dichotomy between the 501c3 regulations and what the NRA says it does, instead focusing on salaries..

Typical, knew it would be too difficult for you.. go find a soundbyte, that is what you are really good at.. '

I present facts.....you can't see beyond the liberal talking points.
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I present facts.....you can't see beyond the liberal talking points.
Atypical obscufication, I point out what the IRS says about 501c3 organizations and how that conflicts with the NRA(a 501c3 organization) and you claim you present facts..

I never should have posted the salaries of the NRA as it confused you, kind of like shiny beads...

Once again how can the NRA reconcile itself with the 501c3 status?? This is deep, so if you cannot it is understandable..

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Atypical obscufication, I point out what the IRS says about 501c3 organizations and how that conflicts with the NRA(a 501c3 organization) and you claim you present facts..

I never should have posted the salaries of the NRA as it confused you, kind of like shiny beads...

Once again how can the NRA reconcile itself with the 501c3 status?? This is deep, so if you cannot it is understandable..


Actually, I've never seen you post anything......"deep".

What specific part of the IRS code has the NRA broken? Specific.
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Actually, I've never seen you post anything......"deep".

What specific part of the IRS code has the NRA broken? Specific.
I am not doing the hard work for you, I invite you to read it and if you do not see the obvious dichotomy then you are blind..

On second thought, perhaps it is better if I direct the conversation as you seem to have some type of late onset ADHD...

What the IRS says.. about 501c3 regs..

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To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3),
What the NRA says on its website..

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In 1990, NRA made a dramatic move to ensure that the financial support for firearms-related activities would be available now and for future generations. Establishing the NRA Foundation, a 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt organization, provided a means to raise millions of dollars to fund gun safety and educational projects of benefit to the general public.

Let me take it to the next step, what the NRA does..

They lobbied for legislation removing any criminal liability for gun manufacturers...

They support and campaign for candidates on state and federal levels.

They rallied to support the assault weapons legislation running out in 2004

They endorse candidates..

Is that confusing??.. What they do and what the IRS allows appears to be diametrically opposed.
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