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A bipartisan group of senators made a bid Wednesday to end the indefinite military detention of Americans in the United States. Declaring that a provision of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 put the country on a path to repeat the shame of World War II's internment camps, they argued the offending language should be stricken in this year's defense bill.
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President Barack Obama opposed the measure, but ultimately signed it after an amendment to the act muddied the issue enough to make it debatable in courts. Obama pledged to never use the authority.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who helped write that amendment, declared Wednesday that it is not good enough, and recalled seeing Japanese Americans jailed in horse stalls at a racetrack when she was a girl.
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Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
These stories are confusing and seem contradictory...
Do not understand the "endgame" for these detainees, do we just detain them in a very expensive island prison ad infinitum??? Seems out of sync with our basic values as set forth in the constitution....
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The Senate on Thursday defied a White House veto threat and voted to bar the transfer of Guantanamo Bay detainees to the U.S. for another year.
The measure is an amendment to an annual defense authorization bill on the Senate floor this week. The legislation already included a ban on transferring additional detainees to foreign countries.
Just hours earlier, the White House Office of Management and Budget issued a policy statement warning that if President Obama gets the legislation “in its current form ... senior advisers would recommend that the President veto the bill.”
The White House “continues to oppose the prohibition on funding to construct, acquire or modify a detention facility in the United States to house any individual detained at Guantanamo,” the memo added.
Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
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Originally Posted by DarrylS
These stories are confusing and seem contradictory...
Do not understand the "endgame" for these detainees, do we just detain them in a very expensive island prison ad infinitum??? Seems out of sync with our basic values as set forth in the constitution....
If this Obama guy does anything wrong at all it's not his fault, it is all the fault of the messenger, if Barack Hussein Obama nuked a childrens hospital because he didn't like kids it won't be his fault it will be the fault of those damn news people for telling us about it (shhhhhhhhhhhhh)
Barack Hussein Obama our own president is becoming an enemy of America and I say "go for it Barry, they voted you in now stick it to em" it will be great amusement to sit back and watch this Chicago LIAR PHONY screw the very people who elected him. Pant Suit Hillary had better get away from him because she will go down with him.
A filthy lying disgraceful dishonest rotten vermin infested Administration, this Obama Gang.
Thats me, Harry Boy talking not Fox or Drudge, ME.
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Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
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Originally Posted by Harry Boy
If this Obama guy does anything wrong at all it's not his fault, it is all the fault of the messenger, if Barack Hussein Obama nuked a childrens hospital because he didn't like kids it won't be his fault it will be the fault of those damn news people for telling us about it (shhhhhhhhhhhhh)
Barack Hussein Obama our own president is becoming an enemy of America and I say "go for it Barry, they voted you in now stick it to em" it will be great amusement to sit back and watch this Chicago LIAR PHONY screw the very people who elected him. Pant Suit Hillary had better get away from him because she will go down with him.
A filthy lying disgraceful dishonest rotten vermin infested Administration, this Obama Gang.
Thats me, Harry Boy talking not Fox or Drudge, ME.
So you did not read the response, just reacted... again.
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Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
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Originally Posted by DarrylS
These stories are confusing and seem contradictory...
Do not understand the "endgame" for these detainees, do we just detain them in a very expensive island prison ad infinitum??? Seems out of sync with our basic values as set forth in the constitution....
I agree with you ( don't be shocked) but I'm not sure it's contradictory. The NDAA amendment seeks to prevent unlimited detention of US citizens and green card holders without trial while Gitmo IIRC is designed to hold foreign terrorists who would not be affected by the NDAA amendment.
Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
Don't even bother.
We're dealing with a crowd that damns Obama for ending Bush's torture policy two days after taking office, then damns Obama because nobody closed Gitmo yet. They can't decide whether Obama's mean for killing Bin Laden and using drones, or whether he's a wuss for leaving Iraq and drawing down from Afghanistan.
There's nothing more to Con "policy" on terror, foreign affairs, etc. etc. etc. at this point than "We hate this guy."
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Originally Posted by PatsFanInVa
Don't even bother.
We're dealing with a crowd that damns Obama for ending Bush's torture policy two days after taking office, then damns Obama because nobody closed Gitmo yet. They can't decide whether Obama's mean for killing Bin Laden and using drones, or whether he's a wuss for leaving Iraq and drawing down from Afghanistan.
There's nothing more to Con "policy" on terror, foreign affairs, etc. etc. etc. at this point than "We hate this guy."
There's just no connective tissue.
PFnV
Do you think it's okay to indefinitely detain Americans without trial based on terrorism suspicions?
The Senate says no ... Obama says don't worry you can trust me I won't.
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He was also disturbed by the open-ended nature of the law and the so-called war.
"We are asked to relinquish our rights because the battlefield is limitless," he said. "It is, although, not a temporary suspension they are asking for, and they request this because they also say the battle is without limit.
This is not a war that is going to end," he said. "They are asking you to relinquish your right to trial by jury for the rest of this limitless war."
The above which is from Ron Paul ... my same link ...
is also why Gitmo has not closed ... this war vs Al-Qaeda(terrorism) has no end ... we all know this.
One could be jailed for giving a unknown terrorist a ride, a bed to sleep in or maybe even letting them make a call from your cell phone. You don't know they are a terrosit until your in jail with no hope of trial anytime soon for being a good samaritan.
Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
Liberal Obama Groupies and OBAMA himself do not want to believe or acknowledge that Terrorism or Terrorists even exisit that is why they came up with their stupid silly little story about the You Tube Video being responsible for the four American deaths one of them a US Ambassador in Libya, this Lying Phony President wants us to believe that he has destroyed Al Queda and he was willing to let those Americans be slaughterd by the savages to try and make believe that there are No Terrorists.
Pant Suit Hillary, That Rice Women and Obama should all be fired and put on trial for Murder and War Crimes, they are disgraceful and disgusting with all of their in your face Lying.
Vacattion Time In Hawaii, Golf and Lobsters, worms are eating the Ambassadors dead body.
That "Rice Women" looks dangerous, she looks like she should be The Warden Of Folsom Prison.
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Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
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Originally Posted by Harry Boy
If this Obama guy does anything wrong at all it's not his fault, it is all the fault of the messenger, if Barack Hussein Obama nuked a childrens hospital because he didn't like kids it won't be his fault it will be the fault of those damn news people for telling us about it (shhhhhhhhhhhhh)
Barack Hussein Obama our own president is becoming an enemy of America and I say "go for it Barry, they voted you in now stick it to em" it will be great amusement to sit back and watch this Chicago LIAR PHONY screw the very people who elected him. Pant Suit Hillary had better get away from him because she will go down with him.
A filthy lying disgraceful dishonest rotten vermin infested Administration, this Obama Gang.
Thats me, Harry Boy talking not Fox or Drudge, ME.
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Re: Obama vs US Senate To End Indefinite Detention In NDAA
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Originally Posted by IcyPatriot
Do you think it's okay to indefinitely detain Americans without trial based on terrorism suspicions?
The Senate says no ... Obama says don't worry you can trust me I won't.
The above which is from Ron Paul ... my same link ...
is also why Gitmo has not closed ... this war vs Al-Qaeda(terrorism) has no end ... we all know this.
One could be jailed for giving a unknown terrorist a ride, a bed to sleep in or maybe even letting them make a call from your cell phone. You don't know they are a terrosit until your in jail with no hope of trial anytime soon for being a good samaritan.
This is one of those cases where both you and PFinVa are correct. The NDAA is a heinous law that was NEVBER Constitutional, but not enough of our leaders had the guts to speak up aboput it and lead the People into a better understanding of the 6th Ammendment. Couldn't be bothered and the polls pointed to "Forget About It".
Indefinite detention of any human being is against the Constitution, and the
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