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You know nothing more about Jesus than I do. Maybe less. And you are a whiner. How's that for a personal attack? (even though my statement is obviously true).
Actually from an internet tough guy, calling people names from behind a computer screen doesn't surprise me one bit.
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Studies show that about 20% of addicts do not have a major trauma history, but in all honesty you really don't know what Tracy's life was like. Trauma is not usually the kind of the thing people share about themselves. In addition, Tracy perhaps was not attracted to the kind of men who had compassion and empathy, with whom she would share such information. It seems the more you worked with those who struggle, the poor you scorn them. The more I work with them, the more I admire how they survived the enormous obstacles that fate put in front of them. Nonetheless, maybe your experiences with the poor have been much different than mine. In my work, I have been astonished by the horrors that abound in our society. I can't tell you how many times a client has shocked me with stories from his or her childhood. There are acts of cruelty done to or witnessed by children that not even tv and movies prepares one for. But what astounds me most is how commonplace these things are, yet how unaware we as a society are aware of these problems.
I knew Tracey extremely well. I knew her for decades. I knew her family...for decades. Very, very nice family who loved Tracey and gave her all sorts of advantages. She blew it and she knows it.
Actually from an internet tough guy, calling people names from behind a computer screen doesn't surprise me one bit.
"Internet tough guy"?
Do you even know what that means? Jeeziz! It's not like I was threatening you or calling you out to a fight or something. A little less hyperbole on your part would go a long way to being taken more seriously.
When you whine about board rules and perceived "personal attacks" that's what you're doing- whining. Maybe I shouldn't have called you a "whiner" according to the rules. Maybe I just should have posted something like, "Your whining about board rules and personal attacks is annoying". Maybe that would have kept me within the law here. Does that work for you, RI Patriots fan?
Enough of that dribble.
Now back to your self-proclaimed expertise about charity work and helping the homeless. Guess what? True charity is done quietly and anonymously. By boasting about your efforts in helping the homeless in order to enhance your assertions and position of authority on the matter, you diminish the act of charity, but that may not matter to you. You seem to have abandoned your idealism of helping homeless people who are, in your opinion, just too lazy to pick themselves up. Maybe you're all done helping people with your seemingly boundless capacity to help those less fortunate than you. Maybe you lack any understanding about how mental illness and cognitive disability works. In that case, I think it's best you just stay out of it and continue to crank about homeless people who don't want to be helped.
"Internet tough guy"?
Do you even know what that means? Jeeziz! It's not like I was threatening you or calling you out to a fight or something. A little less hyperbole on your part would go a long way to being taken more seriously.
When you whine about board rules and perceived "personal attacks" that's what you're doing- whining. Maybe I shouldn't have called you a "whiner" according to the rules. Maybe I just should have posted something like, "Your whining about board rules and personal attacks is annoying". Maybe that would have kept me within the law here. Does that work for you, RI Patriots fan?
Enough of that dribble.
Now back to your self-proclaimed expertise about charity work and helping the homeless. Guess what? True charity is done quietly and anonymously. By boasting about your efforts in helping the homeless in order to enhance your assertions and position of authority on the matter, you diminish the act of charity, but that may not matter to you. You seem to have abandoned your idealism of helping homeless people who are, in your opinion, just too lazy to pick themselves up. Maybe you're all done helping people with your seemingly boundless capacity to help those less fortunate than you. Maybe you lack any understanding about how mental illness and cognitive disability works. In that case, I think it's best you just stay out of it and continue to crank about homeless people who don't want to be helped.
Happy Holidays.
If you live by the adage, "for those who much has been given, much is expected" then you do it not for the results, but because it is common sense and service..
__________________ "Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.
Have more of a clue than you will ever know.. spent my professional life working amongst the poor and downtrodden in many settings in both private and public settings... if you went to cure folks, then you had unreal expectations... you worked in a soup kitchen, whose purpose is to feed the poor.. not make changes in a person's lifestyle.
Most systems are curative, rather than preventative... and what you consistently discount is the prevalence of mental illness amongst this population.
What I can never understand are those who wear their relgious beliefs on their sleeves and will get into a bully pulpit and ponitificate pious platitudes aobut things like annulment whenever they get a chance.. however deny the basic tenet of organized christian religion.. i.e. the Beatitudes and the Golden Rule...
Last thread on this you made commentary about how the homeless would go to Newport to panhandle, perhaps you were not aware that Newport has its own shelter in the old Navy YMCA...
That to whom much is given, much is expected... if you expected any more than to give someone a full belly, then you were in this service for the wrong reasons..
If I ran a shelter or soup kitchen and you came to volunteer, and told me how you wanted to change people and you explained that the issue with alcoholics and drug addicts was a matter or self control.. I would counsel you out, as you would be innapropriate for the mission of the shelter or soup kitchen.
BTW here is your commentary from a previous post.. makes me feel all warm and fuzzy when I reread it...
Again, it's obvious you don't have significant experience working with the homeless. You have this unrealistic picture of them from lack of experience. It's obvious.
You don't know their routines, you don't know their scams, you haven't experienced what I have experienced. The fact that you think they'd take a bus to Newport during the summer months to use the shelter there actually gave me a chuckle.
So now I'm denying my faith....lol. Please enlighten me on how exactly I am denying my faith. Do you even understand what the golden rule is or what the Beatitudes really say....all of them? Obviously not, if you used them in this context.
Again, it's obvious you don't have significant experience working with the homeless. You have this unrealistic picture of them from lack of experience. It's obvious.
You don't know their routines, you don't know their scams, you haven't experienced what I have experienced. The fact that you think they'd take a bus to Newport during the summer months to use the shelter there actually gave me a chuckle.
So now I'm denying my faith....lol. Please enlighten me on how exactly I am denying my faith. Do you even understand what the golden rule is or what the Beatitudes really say....all of them? Obviously not, if you used them in this context.
You entered this service with unrealistic expectations that you could effect change, and when it did not happen you got discouraged and left. This happens often to those who are not educated in this type of service or do not have the educational background in this area.
I do not have an unrealistic expectations of helping the homeless as most will be homeless for most of their lives, I was involved in the deinstitutionalization movement in the 70's and remember the promise that the money saved by closing institutions would follow them into the community. Somehow that did not happen... thus you continue to have a significant problem with funding.
The money that was supposed to flow from the mental health institutions was diverted to other avenues of service. Thus there is not enough money for the needs of the homeless mentally ill as well.
You volunteered in a soup kitchen, which is nice.. but hardly a place where change will be effected..
As far as your faith goes, you rant and rail about things like Annulment, however deny the basic that are taught in the bible. There was a period in my younger life that I was very involved in the Catholic Church, spent a lot of time in their sytems.. also spent some time in college level theology and bible studies.. but since have moved away from the formality, to other religious groups that focus on service rather than process... one of the things I do now is coordinate the provision of cooking meals on a monthly basis for a local shelter.
The bible says to take care of the poor over 2000 times, and never is that caveat qualified with some silly rules.. it says simply help the poor. If you deny that, everything else you say rings hollow...
"Internet tough guy"?
Do you even know what that means? Jeeziz! It's not like I was threatening you or calling you out to a fight or something. A little less hyperbole on your part would go a long way to being taken more seriously.
When you whine about board rules and perceived "personal attacks" that's what you're doing- whining. Maybe I shouldn't have called you a "whiner" according to the rules. Maybe I just should have posted something like, "Your whining about board rules and personal attacks is annoying". Maybe that would have kept me within the law here. Does that work for you, RI Patriots fan?
Enough of that dribble.
Now back to your self-proclaimed expertise about charity work and helping the homeless. Guess what? True charity is done quietly and anonymously. By boasting about your efforts in helping the homeless in order to enhance your assertions and position of authority on the matter, you diminish the act of charity, but that may not matter to you. You seem to have abandoned your idealism of helping homeless people who are, in your opinion, just too lazy to pick themselves up. Maybe you're all done helping people with your seemingly boundless capacity to help those less fortunate than you. Maybe you lack any understanding about how mental illness and cognitive disability works. In that case, I think it's best you just stay out of it and continue to crank about homeless people who don't want to be helped.
Happy Holidays.
Do you really think I brought this up so that I would gain some sort of "favor" with posters on this board.....lol. Boasting....lol. Yes, I brought up my experiences so that the Progressives on this board could berate me. That makes sense
Do you know who I am? I'm pretty sure that you don't know who I am so to claim that posting about my experiences on an internet political board is breaking the "anonymity clause" of charitable work is laughable.
How about this.....I will give you the name and contact information of the organization that I worked with so that you can actually give it a try. We started at 6am on Sunday morning and it lasted about 4 hours tops so there should be nothing that interferes with your schedule. It's right in downtown Providence right off Route 95 not far from CrossRoads. Do it for 6-9 months during the winter into the summer and then we can have this little conversation again.
Oh wait, what....I'm sorry.....you won't or "can't" do it. I see. Too busy saving whales???
Yeah, just as I thought.
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As far as your faith goes, you rant and rail about things like Annulment, however deny the basic that are taught in the bible. There was a period in my younger life that I was very involved in the Catholic Church, spent a lot of time in their sytems.. also spent some time in college level theology and bible studies.. but since have moved away from the formality, to other religious groups that focus on service rather than process... one of the things I do now is coordinate the provision of cooking meals on a monthly basis for a local shelter.
The bible says to take care of the poor over 2000 times, and never is that caveat qualified with some silly rules.. it says simply help the poor. If you deny that, everything else you say rings hollow...
If you think that the Catholic faith "basics" are about simply feeding the poor ....well, that makes you a Progressive and not someone who actually understands the Catholic faith.
Funny how you challenge me about the Beatitudes and now you won't show me how exactly I "deny" them. Soooo....are you going to back up that claim or should I just chalk that up to another Progressive who misrepresents Catholicism?
The Bible doesn't "tell" us anything....it reads. It needs to be interpreted along with Catholic oral teaching by the Magisterium and that's how you know what the faith is....not playing bible one liners.
Define the poor for me.....since the Bible "tells" us that we must help the poor. Define the poor....heck, even conduct an exegesis or two on the bible passages you quote and show me you really understand what they mean.
This should be fun
Oh and what does the bible "say" about those who can work but refuse to work?
So what is...."coordinate the provision of cooking meals on a monthly basis for a local shelter" mean anyways. Does that mean you personally interact with the homeless on a monthly basis? If we were to go to your shelter would you be able to tell me the names of the people you "coordinated"?
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