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Stop giving them their own money back.....causes its the people's money!
The only true "giveaways" are when people get money for doing nothing. I earned 100% of my GROSS income. All of it was mine. So when I get a write-off, it's still all my money.
I pay my mortgage with all my money. You want to stop the MID, then the gov't will just be taking more of my money.
Everything we earn is always ours. Of course there should be a price to pay for living in this country. We each owe it to one another to maintain what we have and what we've built.
And although I B&M about increases in taxes, I fully expect to pay more down the road. But to me, it's a matter of degrees. I sure as hell don't want to be paying $10k a year more taxes 5 years from now. Unless that equates to increased security when I retire. I wasn't brought into this world to keep the USA going and I sure won't be able to work until I'm 75.
I can not handle my town increasing my property tax & user fees, my state increasing various fees and taxes and my federal gov't taking a bigger chunk out of me year after year.
So if they're going to raise my taxes significantly, I'd like something in return. I can deal with another 2-3%/year without getting anything in return. But Doc, do not fuggn tell me it's gonna hurt...and hurt really bad...and then tell me I'll actually be worse after the operation.
That's my 2 cents anyway....
Maybe some don't see it that way.
Last edited by PatriotsReign; 11-28-2012 at 07:31 PM..
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You're the one screaming about debt. If they raise your taxes, you get your debt pay-down
I wouldn't worry too much about Joe Average's tax rates just yet, unless one of those clever "broaden the base" pubbie plans go through.
Bowles-Simpson should scare the crap out of you with your attitude, but I doubt you ever actually looked into the details of it. not real good for the "me me me" anti-tax chanters.
You're the one screaming about debt. If they raise your taxes, you get your debt pay-down
I wouldn't worry too much about Joe Average's tax rates just yet, unless one of those clever "broaden the base" pubbie plans go through.
Bowles-Simpson should scare the crap out of you with your attitude, but I doubt you ever actually looked into the details of it. not real good for the "me me me" anti-tax chanters.
PFnV
As per my previous post, I'm concerned about the overall tax future tax picture. Basically, the cumulative affect of local, state and federal tax increases.
They all have to realize people can't absorb tax increases from all the above if we're not increasing our income by a greater amount.
It just seems like they're all crying about shortfalls at the same time...and that scares the crap out of the average middle-class American.
Have you ever considered WHY our gov't has been cutting taxes for the past 15-20 years? I know you're wicked smaht, so I assume you realize it was all to generate economic growth.
Why?
Gotta tip my hat to Titus Pullo here and say that it was because our politicians (and "them" and "they") knew growth was in decline. It was all one big bubble after another. Think about all the tax cuts, gov't subisidies and changes in laws that fed that beast!
And the biggest of them all....the king of all of them was the "making homes affordable" to everyone scheme.
And I do believe they knew exactly what "they" were doing every step of the way. And then the house of cards fell all at once....and here we are all "feh'd up".
Which is exactly why Bernanke's QE bullsheeit upsets me to no end. Because in the end, we'll end up at the same point whether we try to prop things up ad infinitum or not. I don't believe we need to bridge our economy to the next boom cycle because I don't believe there will another boom cycle. At least not the kind we all remember.
And that brings me to the point of why I am constantly saying I want our gov't to tell us the truth....and I mean ALL of it. And yes, I can handle the truth...I believe we all can.
No more smoke & mirrors...no more bridges to no where and no more pyramid schemes that need constant influx of fiat money.
It's time to deal with reality on it's own terms.
Bump for PFiVA....would like to read your response on this.
Have you ever considered WHY our gov't has been cutting taxes for the past 15-20 years? I know you're wicked smaht, so I assume you realize it was all to generate economic growth.
Wrong.
The Federal Goverment has been cutting taxes for the past TEN (10) years - and look where it got us.
The Federal Government RAISED taxes 20 years ago - and the 90's turned out pretty damn great budget-wise and stock market wise......until the tax cuts.
Guess what. Time to grow up. We are going to have to pay more taxes and cut government spending.
Stop whining about getting a smaller piece of cake.
there are people out there who don't deserve any cake at all........eliminate that cost, and the budget is balanced.
__________________ “ I think good coaches will coach with the personnel they have, and if you only have one (good) linebacker, you’re not going to play a 3–4. ”
—Hank Bullough, who installed one of the first 3–4 defenses with the New England Patriots.
Guess what. Time to grow up. We are going to have to pay more taxes and cut government spending.
Stop whining about getting a smaller piece of cake.
based on this chart, taxes need to go up for the lowest wage-earners also....not just the rich
__________________ “ I think good coaches will coach with the personnel they have, and if you only have one (good) linebacker, you’re not going to play a 3–4. ”
—Hank Bullough, who installed one of the first 3–4 defenses with the New England Patriots.
The Federal Goverment has been cutting taxes for the past TEN (10) years - and look where it got us.
The Federal Government RAISED taxes 20 years ago - and the 90's turned out pretty damn great budget-wise and stock market wise......until the tax cuts.
Get yer facts staight.
They are straight....get YOUR facts straight. Clinton raised taxes in 93 and Bush lower then in 97. 1997 falls within my 15-20 year period. I wasn't trying to be exact as my main point was that our gov't has been trying to create artificial growth for 15-20 years...and I'm correct.
Sadly, they're STILL doing it with the joke called QE3.
There's always theories on both sides of every economic argument.
based on this chart, taxes need to go up for the lowest wage-earners also....not just the rich
I disagree Illegal...your charts clearly show that high earner's rates have been cut a zillion times more than the lower wage earners.
Marginal tax rates on high earners have gone from 90% to 40% while low earners have gone from a high of about 22% to 15%. We can clearly see who has benefitted more from tax cuts and it isn't the low wage earners IC.
So what is your rationale for your comment because it doesn't look like you got it from your chart.
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