cupofjoe1962

Massachusetts To Grant In-State Tuition To Immigrants Who Qualify For DACA

No vote?

I did know know Patrick had this kind of authority.

You can be illegal and work under the table, but your kids qualify for
in state tuition breaks.

A New Hamprhire resident who works and pay's taxes in Massachusetts
cannot get this break for their children.

Shouldn't a legal citizen paying taxes in this state get the same benefits as an illegal who is working under the table?

PatsFanInVa

So if you're born somewhere else and have lived in Mass since you were 1 year old, you should be considered "out of state."

If you were born and raised in Texas and live for a year or two in Mass, you're "in-state."

If you are born in Panama and were in a military family, you can run for president.

PFnV

cupofjoe1962

The children if Illegal immigrants are also illegal.

If you were born in Texas, you are an American Citizen and you are not
illegal.

Some people believe they do not even check the birth certificates ANYMORE .

DarrylS

No one is "illegal", that is an effort to dehumanize immigrants who come here to seek a better life.. as Elie Weisel so eloquently said..

__________________
"Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.

cupofjoe1962

OK... Then.....

The "immigrants who crossed illegally" should not be eligible for in-state
tuition breaks.

Thank you for the lesson in semantics.

Wolfpack

If that "somewhere" is Kansas, then no you should not be considered out of state.

If that "somewhere else" is another country and your family has no legal right to be here in the first place, then ya, you should not get benefits denied to American citizens of 49 other states.

An illegal should not have more rights than someone from, say, Rhode Island.
If your parents are American citizens and your father is stationed overseas as a member of the U.S. military and you happen to be born on an overseas base, then ya you should be (and are) eligible to be POTUS.

RI Patriots fan

Again, another liberal lie. Both "alien" and "illegal alien" are recognized terms used by Homeland Security and define the people in question....accurately.


Alien - Any person not a citizen or national of the United States


Departure Under Safeguards - The departure of an illegal alien from the United States which is physically observed by a Department of Homeland Security official.


Legalized Aliens - Certain illegal aliens who were eligible to apply for temporary resident status under the legalization provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.


Definition of Terms | Homeland Security

PatsFanInVa

::Shrug:: evidently you guys believe the federal government should run Massachusetts' in-state tuition policy.

I suppose it would save money were the states subordinated to the federal government more extensively, and would help harmonize tuition policy with something having to do with airports and the like.

But it's a bit confusing, since you folks are usually blathering on about states rights.

The state of Massachusetts, evidently, believes in granting in-state tuition to a resident of the state who fits all the residency requirements.

Do you believe that the people of your state should be overruled by the federal government, in some bizarre cross-"agency" operation where immigration and customs enforcement becomes part of the Massachusetts state education system?

I thought you guys weren't even in favor the Department of Education granting $ to the public schools.

Weird.

Would we need to pass an amendment to repeal the 10th amendment and cede all power to the federal government to establish federal homeland security control over tuition breaks?

Eh, prolly fits under the Patriot Act somehow.

PFnV

cupofjoe1962

This is a state issue.
I just feel that the son or daughter of a legal united states citizen working in Massachusetts and paying taxes , should have the same rights as the son and daughter of an illegal working under the table in Massachusetts.

Deval Patrick may not have the authority to pull this off.
This may end up in court.

The state legislature would not even pass this.
Even though most of the legislature are democrats, they would not support
this because of voter backlash.

The voters do not support illegals (polls) getting in-state tuition.

Deval is doing this because he never plans on running again for Govenor.
He has his eye on a much bigger prize.

I have a feeling Deval will run for president in 2016.
He was a long shot in 2008, in Massachusetts and won.

I do not believe Deval will get the support that Obama received.
Obama is a like-able guy.

Deval comes across as a smug little twirp.
(That won't fly outside of Massachusetts).

How did he get elected you ask.....
He is a democrat in Massachustts.

Real World

I guess the kids of soldier parents stationed overseas, defending the nation, are actually illegal aliens.

__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
Leo Tolstoy, 1897