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Old 11-18-2012, 09:29 AM   #41
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USA policy was supposed to be we do not do business with terrorists. Fox is part of the MSM ... their story was accurate ... you even go on to discuss it.

Your okay with us working with Al-Qaeda to topple leaders?

Really ???
I've seen no evidence that we're working with Al Qaeda. I see merely evidence that we're trying to sort out what's going on. In the case of Libya, there were unholy alliances, just as in the case of WWII we had an unholy alliance with Stalin. Now we are trying to figure out what was really going on in Libya, and that process will probably continue for quite some time under the radar since people make ridiculous assumptions that the US is now working with Al Qaeda.

Why are those young Tea Partiers wearing those hats?

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Old 11-18-2012, 10:11 AM   #42
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but frankly the Obama administration has been perhaps the most honest in my lifetime.
That would make you four years old.

Here it is chronologically. Sorry about the length, but he is who he is...

2008 Campaign Lies

I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain
Youtube

No more wiretapping of citizens
Youtube

Lies During First Year

We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
AP fact Checker

Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
AP fact Checker

Collective salvation
Obama calls himself a Christian

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009

Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
Associated Press Video

Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
Obama Lies

As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
ABC

Recovery Act will save or create jobs
ABC News

Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
Obama Lies

No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
CNN

I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
Specator.Org

We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
Obama Lies

I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
NPR

Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
Council on Foreign Relations.

Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
List of Tax Promise Violations

Mr. Ayers is “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
News Busters

I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Obama campaign would accept public funding
ABC

Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
A Socialist

Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
Mounting Heath Care Lies

Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.

Would have the most transparent administration in History
Cato Institute

We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
Boston Globe

I have visited all 57 states.
Snopes

I’ll get rid of earmarks
Source: Any bill passed during presidency

When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
Campaign Speech

My father served in World War II.
The Videos and the Facts

Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
News Video

Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
YouTube

Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.

Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
NPR

I Won Michigan
Huffington Post

I won Nevada
The Nation

I don’t Have Lobbyists
US News

My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
Crooks and Liars

I Have Always Been Against Iraq
Washington Post

My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
CNN

Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Obama Campaign Video

I Barely Know Rezko
Sun Times

My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
ABC News
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Lies During Third Year

I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
Youtube

In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.
Breitbart

I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever
Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza

Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
Examiner

“Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
Like Raising taxes?

Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.

GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
Dems Rejected Jobs Bill

You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
Gallup Poll: Only 69%

These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.
Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama

Jobs Bill Paid for
Seems not so much Paid for

Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11

I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
American.com

USA producing more oil than ever before
Petroleum Insights

Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
Department of Homeland Security says 5%

Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
National Taxpayers Union

Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
Cnn Interview

Lies During Fourth Year

“The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”
Politifact.com

“Mitt Romney raised nursing home fees eight times.”
Politifact.com

“Mitt Romney called the Arizona law a model for the nation.”
Politifact.com

“Planned Parenthood provides mammograms”
Spero News

“We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system”
cbsnews.com

Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations
State Department

“Mitt Romney Plans to fire Big Bird”
Politifact.com

“Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”
politifact.com

Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.”
politifact.com

“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”
abcnews.com

Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
Factcheck.org

My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
Factcheck.org

“I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)

The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

“You Didn’t Build that”
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:22 AM   #44
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1960s Pats, those are lists generated by right wing sites (and should be sourced). I skimmed over it, there's a response to most if not all of those. But, politics aside, the reality is that the Obama administration has been almost scandal free, and the scandals have been minor compared with Obama's predecessors.
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1960s Pats, those are lists generated by right wing sites (and should be sourced). I skimmed over it, there's a response to most if not all of those. But, politics aside, the reality is that the Obama administration has been almost scandal free, and the scandals have been minor compared with Obama's predecessors.
You're too much of an ideologue to even try to see the truth. Like it or not, you're guy has lied to you repeatedly and you still insist that it's not real or he hasn't done anything wrong, in Libya or anywhere else. I'm not sure that even if this country went into a meltdwon you and your ilk would admit it then either. You are blinded by that giant D in the sky.
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You're too much of an ideologue to even try to see the truth. Like it or not, you're guy has lied to you repeatedly and you still insist that it's not real or he hasn't done anything wrong, in Libya or anywhere else. I'm not sure that even if this country went into a meltdwon you and your ilk would admit it then either. You are blinded by that giant D in the sky.
If you define scandals as political lies, flipflops, and exaggerations, then you have a point, but then of course we can point to Romney's numerous lies, flipflops, and exaggerations. I suppose, though, from your ideological perspective you might hold Republicans politicians to a lower standard than you hold Democrats.

But, overall, the only corruption in the Obama administration did not amount to much: Fast & Furious, GSA, and you can keep your fingers crossed that the Benghazi scandal will turn up something good, but so far it doesn't really seem like a scandal. But perhaps that giant R burning in the fires of hell some might find too blinding to see the truth.

Here's a link to Romney's 533 lies, though it's a little outdated and may not include the lies in made in September and October. I could have posted them, like you posted the ones by Obama, but this list is far too long to post

Mitt Romney tells 533 lies in 30 weeks, Steve Benen documents them
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USA policy was supposed to be we do not do business with terrorists. Fox is part of the MSM ... their story was accurate ... you even go on to discuss it.

Your okay with us working with Al-Qaeda to topple leaders?

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So you didn't like the movie "Charlie Wilson's War".
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You're too much of an ideologue to even try to see the truth. Like it or not, you're guy has lied to you repeatedly and you still insist that it's not real or he hasn't done anything wrong, in Libya or anywhere else. I'm not sure that even if this country went into a meltdwon you and your ilk would admit it then either. You are blinded by that giant D in the sky.
Thanks for posting the viral email, with no sources.. but then again there are no sources, just hysteria and hyperbole..
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So you didn't like the movie "Charlie Wilson's War".

sure was interesting that's for sure ... I wasn't into politics as much back then ... I thought Reagan was the greatest thing since sliced bread ... that's where i was at.

as for those poor kids ... those are the orphans of martyred fighters and children of men killed by our drones. Sound horrific to us but it's a great strategy for them ... inbred anger.
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This nicely sums up my point of view about this "scandal":

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