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Old 11-15-2012, 09:23 AM   #1
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How long have some of us been saying this? I like how the processor who is right to complain about the overpriced, and over hired administrators, seems to imply he'd prefer more faculty. LOL. How much is he and his faculty making? Chief Warren, is that you?




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By John Hechinger - Nov 14, 2012 12:01 AM ET.

Why Does a College Education Cost So Much?

By John Hechinger - Nov 14, 2012 12:01 AM ET

J. Paul Robinson, chairman of Purdue University’s faculty senate, strode through the halls of a 10- story concrete-and-glass administrative tower. “I have no idea what these people do,” said Robinson, waving his hand across a row of offices, his voice rising.

The 59-year-old professor of biomedical engineering is leading a faculty revolt against bureaucratic bloat at the public university in Indiana. In the past decade, the number of administrative employees jumped 54 percent, almost eight times the growth of tenured and tenure-track faculty.

Purdue has a $313,000-a-year acting provost and six vice and associate vice provosts, including a $198,000 chief diversity officer. It employs 16 deans and 11 vice presidents, among them a $253,000 marketing officer and a $433,000 business school chief.


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Old 11-15-2012, 09:25 AM   #2
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Holy $#%&!

Again though, what about the faculty? Yes the administrators salaries are out of control, but no mention of the $250k per year professor? Is that ok, or do we just not want to mention that a lot of the teachers at colleges (cough, ahem, Lizzy Warren, cough...) are overpaid too.

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Trustees at the University of Connecticut’s flagship campus in Storrs, known for its NCAA champion Huskies basketball teams, said last year they were reviewing the level of administrators’ pay. The move followed a controversy over the then campus police chief, who received $256,000 annually -- more than New York City’s police commissioner.

UConn has a $312,000-a-year provost and 13 vice, deputy and associate vice provosts, including one overseeing “engagement” who makes almost $275,000 a year. The university has seven vice presidents and 13 deans. President Susan Herbst, who receives a $500,000 salary, has a $199,000 chief of staff.
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Like I said in the other thread.... All those billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies do nothing to help students. It only lines the pockets of the university and its administrators.

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What is worse are the for profit colleges, some presidents make over 7 figures... and most of their money comes from government subsidies..

Liberty University is the largest recipient of federal dollars in Virginia..

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What is worse are the for profit colleges, some presidents make over 7 figures... and most of their money comes from government subsidies..

Liberty University is the largest recipient of federal dollars in Virginia..
I agree that that is a problem, but you should be aware that ALL colleges are for-profit colleges.
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Holy $#%&!

Again though, what about the faculty? Yes the administrators salaries are out of control, but no mention of the $250k per year professor? Is that ok, or do we just not want to mention that a lot of the teachers at colleges (cough, ahem, Lizzy Warren, cough...) are overpaid too.

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Trustees at the University of Connecticut’s flagship campus in Storrs, known for its NCAA champion Huskies basketball teams, said last year they were reviewing the level of administrators’ pay. The move followed a controversy over the then campus police chief, who received $256,000 annually -- more than New York City’s police commissioner.

UConn has a $312,000-a-year provost and 13 vice, deputy and associate vice provosts, including one overseeing “engagement” who makes almost $275,000 a year. The university has seven vice presidents and 13 deans. President Susan Herbst, who receives a $500,000 salary, has a $199,000 chief of staff.
Not much anyone can do about how much private university professors and administrators make, but you're damn right we can do something about how much PUBLIC administrators make!!!!....and we should do something about it.

The thing about a per-fessor who makes over $250k/year is that they end up on a publically subsidized pension! And just think about how much they must get upon retirement.

As I've written several times before, NO ONE, including former presidents, deserve to get a lifetime pension over $100k. At least not one that is paid for by taxpayers.
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I don't care about professors making money, they do all the work. Admins in the nice offices do nothing.
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I don't care about professors making money, they do all the work. Admins in the nice offices do nothing.
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I agree, teachers deserve to make good money, admins are nothing but dead weight...We could fire them all and not much would change....
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As an administrator at one of the top schools in the world, I am very confident in saying that the jobs we perform are vital to the workings of the school. You guys are talking out of your buttocks. Nothing would get done without us. College faculty are brilliant, but they are not program managers, project managers, web developers, registrars, work with financial aid, come up with admission procedures or governance procedure.

Besides that, salaries have to be competitive, because they need to attract the best people. And they need the best people because faculty have no patience for the dull witted.
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As an administrator at one of the top schools in the world, I am very confident in saying that the jobs we perform are vital to the workings of the school. You guys are talking out of your buttocks. Nothing would get done without us. College faculty are brilliant, but they are not program managers, project managers, web developers, registrars, work with financial aid, come up with admission procedures or governance procedure.

Besides that, salaries have to be competitive, because they need to attract the best people. And they need the best people because faculty have no patience for the dull witted.
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If I were you and my job was your job, I would say the same thing....LOL Your not vital, you don't teach, you are there to run the show but offer nothing more then that! Don't overstate your job...

Could a college run without a dean? I think so....

Could a college run without financial aid agents? I think so...All you need is a computer and a program.

Could a college run without registrars? Yes...you could have students do it for a credit.Web developers? Same thing, make the student do it and give them a credit.

Admission procedures or governance procedure? lol don't make me laugh...Teachers can do that...Teachers should run the show, you and people like you are dead weight....You make too much and don't do enough...

Your not worth seven figures, your not even worth six figures....talk about an ego....A trained monkey could do you job! A trained monkey could do my job but I don't get paid six figures or seven figures.
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