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First we were told that any concerns about the Muslim Brotherhood merely signified the prejudice of those expressing them. Then the Muslim Brotherhood actually took power and we were told that we needed to respect the will of the people and that all of this is simply Egypt getting in touch with it's true nature.
An Egyptian jihad leader, with self-professed links to the Taliban, called for the “destruction of the Sphinx and the Giza Pyramids in Egypt,” drawing ties between the Egyptian relics and Buddha statues, local media reported this week.
Murgan Salem al-Gohary, an Islamist leader twice-sentenced under former President Hosni Mubarak for advocating violence, called on Muslims to remove such “idols.”
“All Muslims are charged with applying the teachings of Islam to remove such idols, as we did in Afghanistan when we destroyed the Buddha statues,” he said on Saturday during a television interview on an Egyptian private channel, widely watched by Egyptian and Arab audiences.
Are we ready to admit that Islam is not native to Egypt (or Iran, or Afghanistan, etc)? It is a foreign culture that overtakes its hosts. Does anyone really believe that this is an expression of Egyptian culture?
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I know this might be a sensitive issue for you guys but:
"Are we ready to admit that Islam is not native to Egypt (or Iran, or Afghanistan, etc)? It is a foreign culture that overtakes its hosts. Does anyone really believe that this is an expression of Egyptian culture?"
Seems awfull similar to:
"Are we ready to admit that Christianity is not native to America? It is a foreign culture that overtakes its hosts. Does anyone really believe that this is an expression of American culture?"
The Arabs have been in Egypt an awful lot longer than Europeans have been in America.
I'm sorry, I missed the part where this guy was even part of the Muslim Brotherhood party.
The article portrays him as a random loony that got out of jail on a lucky judicial ruling.
What's your point again?
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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I know this might be a sensitive issue for you guys but:
"Are we ready to admit that Islam is not native to Egypt (or Iran, or Afghanistan, etc)? It is a foreign culture that overtakes its hosts. Does anyone really believe that this is an expression of Egyptian culture?"
Seems awfull similar to:
"Are we ready to admit that Christianity is not native to America? It is a foreign culture that overtakes its hosts. Does anyone really believe that this is an expression of American culture?"
The Arabs have been in Egypt an awful lot longer than Europeans have been in America.
The point is that the pyramids have been there even longer. Let me know when a bunch of Catholics or Baptists call for the destruction of Chichen Itza, Machu Pichu or Teothihuacan.
Well I am no religion expert but to my limited knowledge I am fairly sure that the Hebrews and Protestants are against idol worship also ... idolatry. These people rising to power want a conservative older school way to be adhered to. That has to be nearly impossible in todays world ... it is sure to lead to power struggles and violence for years to come - we'll see. Today's civilization wants modern comforts and ways. IMO current civilization wants religion to be less intrusive on their life - we're seeing it change in this country every day.
As in the other Abrahamic religions, in practice the term has been greatly extended and may be used very widely within Islam to describe behaviour that is deprecated, including the use of images in a way that is seen as un-Islamic, but does not literally constitute worship.
The Qur'an, the Islamic holy book, does not explicitly prohibit the depiction of human figures; it merely condemns idolatry (5:87–92, 21:51–52). Interdictions of figurative representation are present in the Hadith, among a dozen of the hadith recorded during the latter part of the period when they were being written down. Because these hadith are tied to particular events in the life of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad, they need to be interpreted in order to be applied in any general manner.
I know this might be a sensitive issue for you guys but:
"Are we ready to admit that Islam is not native to Egypt (or Iran, or Afghanistan, etc)? It is a foreign culture that overtakes its hosts. Does anyone really believe that this is an expression of Egyptian culture?"
Seems awfull similar to:
"Are we ready to admit that Christianity is not native to America? It is a foreign culture that overtakes its hosts. Does anyone really believe that this is an expression of American culture?"
The Arabs have been in Egypt an awful lot longer than Europeans have been in America.
Jihad and sharia have been witnessed by the world to be savage forms of human behavior....so are you comparing 17th century Christian behvior to current jihad and sharia savagery?
I don't get your non-comparison of Islam/Egypt to Christianity/America.
Can you point out the similarities?
Thank you.
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The point is that the pyramids have been there even longer. Let me know when a bunch of Catholics or Baptists call for the destruction of Chichen Itza, Machu Pichu or Teothihuacan.
They destroyed an entire civilisation.
'Nuff said.
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where this guy was even part of the Muslim Brotherhood party.
The article portrays him as a random loony that got out of jail on a lucky judicial ruling.
What's your point again?
His point is that the Brotherhood is actually LISTENING to this lunatic.
The rest of the world wouldn't tolerate the destruction of the pyramids or the sphinx.
And if we ask ourselves why anyone in Egypt would WANT them destroyed, I'd guess to piss of the rest of the world....and think they'd get what they want, don't you?
The point is that the pyramids have been there even longer. Let me know when a bunch of Catholics or Baptists call for the destruction of Chichen Itza, Machu Pichu or Teothihuacan.
Did you forget about when Columbus conquered the Caribbean or when they sent missionaries to destroy a very precious culture, there may not have been a Chitzen Itza but we destroyed all that was dear to the American Indian and we took their land..
Check out the "Doctrine of Discovery", and you will see the parallels of the Catholic Church and the Supreme Court has held this doctrine up..
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