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11-09-2012, 11:43 AM
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Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
This thread for all those who'd like to discuss this topic.
It doesn't belong in the "Is America becoming more Secular" thread.
Thank you!
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11-09-2012, 11:47 AM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
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This thread for all those who'd like to discuss this topic.
It doesn't belong in the "Is America becoming more Secular" thread.
Thank you!
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Why dimmie, Why do you do dis to me/us?

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11-09-2012, 11:48 AM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
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Why dimmie, Why do you do dis to me/us?

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Great line from a great movie....
But off-topic! 
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11-09-2012, 12:07 PM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
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Originally Posted by IllegalContact
People can talk in circles all they want. There is no word that can be used to pigeon hole homosexuality as a disorder or a handicap or anything that anyone wants to percieve it as.
It is a physiological 'inconsistency' (I don't know how else to put it) that if humanity behaves with a certain amount of maturity and tolerance, is a non-issue.
both homosexuality and heterosexuality, if handled personally the same way, should not matter to anyone. I think most rationally thinking people (the middle 98%) whether hetero or homo would like it this way. the problem is that at the same time you have 1% at one end treating it like some disease from the middle ages and you have 1% at the other end making a personal issue extremely public.
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Nice post IC!
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11-09-2012, 12:08 PM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
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Originally Posted by DarrylS
Anyone can find a article that disputes something scientific, but it is all crap..
It is a medical/scientific discussion.. there was no bullying about this in 1973, it relied on empirical data from those in the field.. it reemerged as "ego dystonic homosexuality" in the 1980's, however it had a short life and was eliminated in 1986. There was a democratic vote to change these diagnoses..
I was involved in the mental health field from 1973 to 2007, saw many changes and this was one of them..
In 1970 most gays were in the closet and had 0 political power, the same is true in 1986.. this is all just a fantasy that feeds the lies..
The right needs to stop playing the victim.. it is really tiring. There was no bullying, despite what the right wing lies tell you..
Many gays have adjustment and acceptance issues, that is treatable the underlying being gay is not... as much as there is a very small segment that believe that you can change a persons sexual orientation, it probably will never happen.
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There we go....now we're getting it.
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11-09-2012, 12:18 PM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
They didn't say all straight men so really for me the origins or history are irrelevant. When I hear the holy rollers talk about the loss of personal freedoms that will result from a liberal government I think what they are really saying is they will lose their self perceived right to dictate what personal freedoms people should have as judged by their moral compass. I could go into civil liberties for all citizens as dictated by the constitution as well but won't.
Which brings us full circle to why Romney and especially Ryan lost the election by driving off fiscal conservatives like myself who are socially liberal. Until they separate church and state in their agenda as it should be they'll continue to lose ground.
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11-09-2012, 12:26 PM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
I will be trashed soundly for this one but it's true, isn't it.
Personally I believe live and let live, do as ye wish and may God be with thee.
My View:
God or something else created a Vagina on a women, then a Penis was created on a man, when the man inserted the Penis into the Vagina both the man and the women felt great pleasure, this pleasure motivated the man and the women to continue this physical union and in doing so created life, reproduction of the species, that was the plan, life would go on.
God or something else created The Anal Canal For The Emission Of Human Waste.
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11-09-2012, 12:27 PM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
are we looking for achealogical artifacts?
does this even matter?
can anyone pinpoint them moment intercourse went from being a reproductive need to being 'sex'?
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11-09-2012, 12:41 PM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
God created homosexuality. Either that or nature created it. The end.
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11-09-2012, 12:44 PM
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Re: Origins of Homosexaulity - Discussion
I'll repeat this link for the sake of discussion, referencing the underlying physiological determination of sexual orientation:
Brain Study Shows Differences Between Gays, Straights - washingtonpost.com
Also, the American Psychological Association declared in 1975 that gay/lesbian/bisexual orientation is not a mental illness or disorder:
Sexual orientation, homosexuality and bisexuality
Finally, I have a few gay friends I've discussed this with. Each said their sexual orientation was (A.) not a matter of choice and (B.) something they realized before entering puberty.
In my humble opinion, evidence both scientific and anecdotal overwhelmingly points to homosexuality being inherent -- not "learned," "conditioned," a "disorder" or a matter of choice. Of course, there are numerous well-written Christian websites that attempt to argue otherwise.
It might boil down to WHAT you CHOOSE to believe. But I find myself wondering why anyone would want to view homosexuality as a "disorder" or "illness" -- especially when so many gays/lesbians are productive members of society whose sexual preference (like us straights) manifests almost exclusively in the bedroom. It is nobody's business but theirs.
It's like the abortion debate: Are you anti-abortion? Fine. Just don't have one. Are you anti-gay? Fine. Don't befriend one.
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