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Old 10-31-2012, 01:09 PM   #31
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Change is subjective,

There is no perfect canidate and there never will be one, what's change to you might not be change to me.

If I was voting I would vote for Obama(even though if Paul ran I would vote for him instead).

Why?

Simple, he's not a silver spoon, I can't respect a trust fund baby or someone who made millions and at the same time took his money to a another bank in another county to avoid taxes, who made money off the backs of others while he sat at a desk doing next to nothing.Who says that 47% of people are lazy, that we are freeloaders, Mitt better never come around my part of town, he'll get a left hook!
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:12 PM   #32
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Change is subjective,

There is no perfect canidate and there never will be one, what's change to you might not be change to me.

If I was voting I would vote for Obama(even though if Paul ran I would vote for him instead).

Why?

Simple, he's not a silver spoon, I can't respect a trust fund baby or someone who made millions and at the same time took his money to a another bank in another county to avoid taxes, who made money off the backs of others while he sat at a desk doing next to nothing.Who says that 47% of people are lazy, that we are freeloaders, Mitt better never come around my part of town, he get a left hook!
So people who have wealthy parents are automatically disqualified from holding public office. Sounds really fair. One question: if their parents are wealthy, what could they do about it? Ask to be given up for adoption by a poor family?

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Old 10-31-2012, 01:18 PM   #33
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I was curious to see the responses.

Stein would wipe them both ... she is so much more than just being Green.
she would provide grants and low interest loans for local green companies and she wants to renegotiate NAFTA!!!

Wants to end corporate subsidies and strengthen Medicare and social Security. She wants to end banks creating money , restore Glass-Steagall (sorry), wants to reform healthcare through Medicare for all (I love that idea), repeal the Patriot Act (Love that), I entirely love her foreign policy, she is in line with my thinking on immigration (let them stay here) ... I could go on and on.

I think they could be a breathe of fresh air myself and they would actually make Congress and the Senate work for a change. They would be forced through public opinion to tackle the tough issues instead of tabling them.

But we see so much Obama and Romney talk here and I think they will change little to nothing. Obama maybe a bit better on foreign policy and Romney perhaps a bit better on the economy - but no big swing either way regardless of who wins. Thus I was hoping for responses.

Stein is an arch liberal and would have zero chance of getting elected. Gary Johnson would have a much better chance as a libertarian (although I would never vote for him because of his stand on social issues).
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Change is subjective,

There is no perfect canidate and there never will be one, what's change to you might not be change to me.

If I was voting I would vote for Obama(even though if Paul ran I would vote for him instead).

Why?

Simple, he's not a silver spoon, I can't respect a trust fund baby or someone who made millions and at the same time took his money to a another bank in another county to avoid taxes, who made money off the backs of others while he sat at a desk doing next to nothing.Who says that 47% of people are lazy, that we are freeloaders, Mitt better never come around my part of town, he'll get a left hook!

Let me guess.....you've never created a job for another person and never will, right?
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So people who have wealthy parents are automatically disqualified from holding public office. Sounds really fair. One question: if their parents are wealthy, what could they do about it? Ask to be given up for adoption by a poor family?

Never said they couldn't run for office.....I don't know where you got that from.

I said I can't respect them and I can't vote for them.

Its not anyone's fault for being born into a rich family, but when you start acting like your above everyone else, that you have all the answers and that if you can do it anyone can, is when I start to have a problem.

Its like a game of Monopoly, we all start off with the same amount of money, makes the game fair right? Well lets say instead of making it fair and giving everyone a fair shot, we instead give two players 50k and the other 2 1k, now what do you think is gonna happen? Who do you think is going to win? Is it because the other 2 are smarter then the other 2? Or is its because they had a hand up before the game even started?

Being born rich, is a handup! You have no right if you rich to talk about handouts or doing things the hard way or doing it all by myself.

I respect people that earn their money, that come from nothing and make something, I will never respect people that get it handed to them....
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Let me guess.....you've never created a job for another person and never will, right?
This thread is about me?

Its against the rules to bait people, please add something to the conversation and don't resort to personal attacks please.

You want to talk about me? PM me please....


Edit: BTW I ran my own Carpet Cleaning company when I was 18-26 and hired a few workers when I was the boss, you know nothing about me....
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Never said they couldn't run for office.....I don't know where you got that from.

I said I can't respect them and I can't vote for them.

Its not anyone's fault for being born into a rich family, but when you start acting like your above everyone else, that you have all the answers and that if you can do it anyone can, is when I start to have a problem.

Its like a game of Monopoly, we all start off with the same amount of money, makes the game fair right? Well lets say instead of making it fair and giving everyone a fair shot, we instead give two players 50k and the other 2 1k, now what do you think is gonna happen? Who do you think is going to win? Is it because the other 2 are smarter then the other 2? Or is its because they had a hand up before the game even started?

Being born rich, is a handup! You have no right if you rich to talk about handouts or doing things the hard way or doing it all by myself.

I respect people that earn their money, that come from nothing and make something, I will never respect people that get it handed to them....


So you're saying that Romney was born rich and was given his money by his Dad?
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This thread is about me?

Its against the rules to bait people, please add something to the conversation and don't resort to personal attacks please.

You want to talk about me? PM me please....

Nah, it wouldn't be worth the PM.

Besides, I was just curious if you ever created a job for another person.

I don't see how that can be taken as an "attack".
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Never said they couldn't run for office.....I don't know where you got that from.

I said I can't respect them and I can't vote for them.

Its not anyone's fault for being born into a rich family, but when you start acting like your above everyone else, that you have all the answers and that if you can do it anyone can, is when I start to have a problem.

Its like a game of Monopoly, we all start off with the same amount of money, makes the game fair right? Well lets say instead of making it fair and giving everyone a fair shot, we instead give two players 50k and the other 2 1k, now what do you think is gonna happen? Who do you think is going to win? Is it because the other 2 are smarter then the other 2? Or is its because they had a hand up before the game even started?

Being born rich, is a handup! You have no right if you rich to talk about handouts or doing things the hard way or doing it all by myself.

I respect people that earn their money, that come from nothing and make something, I will never respect people that get it handed to them....
I would hardly characterize Mitt's career as having been handed to him. Valedictorian at BYU. Graduated cum laude from Harvard Law and was a Baker Scholar (Top 5%) at Harvard Business School. Worked in management consulting and started Bain Capital. What part of that was "handed to him"?
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So you're saying that Romney was born rich and was given his money by his Dad?
YEP!

Do you know where Mitt got the money to start Bain?

Do you know where Mitt got the money for Stock when he was in college?

Do you know anything about Mitt "Silver Spoon" Romney?
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