TyronePoole

One is worse for America than the other, unless you have absolutely no opinion on a number of issues. There is a difference between fanboism and caring which one wins.

IcyPatriot

Obama has @ 238 electoral votes ... that means he needs 22 - a small number.

Romney way well win the popular vote but I see Obama winning a 2nd term.

PatsFanInVa

I could see that happening, and ultimately it may be very good for the National Popular Vote movement... I could see a few heavily Republican states signing on, if it happens to their guy. Oh, the hew and cry that will go up if a Republican actually wins the popular vote but loses the election

I sure hope the pubbies don't make back, or steal back, the 5% needed to get a tie in Ohio (of course, Tmoney's ownership of the voting machines worries me a lot.) With so much early voting, I wonder how we'll even be able to tell what's happening from exit polls... this may be a very weird one. Between abusing power to change outcomes, or having an undesireable outcome see the light, I think we all know which Republican partisans choose.

PFnV

PatsFanInVa

(It is odd, however, to see a relatively even divide here. If you think about it, this board is demographically loaded toward Rmoney's best segment, white males... I'd expect a heavier pro-Rmoney tilt.)

TyronePoole

have you read this?

http://www.themoneyparty.org/main/wp...alies_V2.0.pdf

Nikolai

It's also a Massachusetts/New England based board.

As for the election, regardless of how the popular vote/electoral vote goes, I'm still pretty uneasy about ditching the electoral college, but that's a discussion for another thread (that I realize has already been posted, but I neglected to really assert my position there).

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Wolfpack

Dont be silly. While I realize not everyone here lives in Massachusetts, many of us do and those of us that don't still have a connection to that area. So one would expect a bunch of people from the most liberal state in the country to come down heavily for Obama.

patsfan13

No the number is an aggregate of 5 different Ohio polls over the past week, SurveyUSA, PPP, CBS/Quinnipiac, Gravis, and FoxNews.

The numbers are:

Dems: Obama 87.81%, Romney 8.18%, Undec/oth 4.01%
Reps: Obama 6.83%, Romney 90.17%, Undec/oth 3.00%
Indies: Obama 36.58%, Romney 49.50%, Undec/oth 6.69%

In 2008 Obama won among Indies by 8% and won Ohio by 5%, currently he is behind by 13%, How does he over come that 18% swing among indies?

Unless the dem turnout is much higher than 2008 he doesn't. They polls are being weighted to use on average a +8% D model. That is nonsense.


Hope you come around for the gloating thread the day after, my guess is that you won't.

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TyronePoole

Did you just add 5% of the total vote to 13% of independent voters? this sentence is very unclear. EDIT - I see what you did here, Ohio Indy's by 5. As I showed you below Party ID is not a static number.

got a link to your aggregate? some of your numbers seem quite suspect. PPP, for example is D+4.

The reason for the "oversampling" talking point in the right wing blogosphere is because Republican party identification is way down, specifically in Ohio a significant amount of voters calling themselves "independent" identified as "republican" last time or are registered Republicans. Also in many states, all Dems who voted in Republican primaries are labelled as Republicans in the overall population (there was no Dem primary this year so the last one they voted in was Republican). This issue has pretty much been put to rest by everyone outside of Breitbart and co.

I'm not going to gloat because I'm not certain obama is going to win. I think he has a strong likelihood of winning, but I don't make emphatic proclamations about uncertain events like silly people do.

You made a statement that Romney is going to carry IA, NV, WI, VA, FLA, NH, OH, and CO. There isn't even a right wing tilted model out there that goes that far.

Wolfpack

No, you just do things like challenge a bunch of strangers in a political forum to an up-to-$1,000 wager on who is going to win.