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PatriotsReign · 01-19-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

Knowledge and facts are a good thing, PR.

If nothing is learned by all from the election last November it is that made up realities do NOT win in the longterm - - Rove, Morris, Trump, etc. all tried to manufacture facts. You can keep flailing, it entertaining to watch. The Nate Silver's of the world won.

Here's a MACRO view of the US economy by an actual economist from an actual economic site. You can pick and choose anecdotal evidence all you want while the rest of us prosper.

U.S. Economy Not So Fragile After All

Once again, you set up your imaginary "Us against you" scenario. There is nothing in this discussion that includes this fantasy world you're living in.

Good to know you believe the average American is living in a period of prosperity though....

For Americans, 'Cope' Replaces 'Hope': NBC Poll

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The latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll shows that just 34 percent look at 2013 as a moment of economic expansion and opportunity; fully 60 percent call it a moment "to hold back and save because harder times are ahead."

Just 36 percent express significant confidence that Obama, after four years in the Oval Office, has the ability to produce a strong and growing national economy.

For Americans, 'Cope' Replaces 'Hope': NBC Poll - Yahoo! Finance

***DarrylS*** · 01-19-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

Is there ever a story you haven't read about?

What do you want to do now, control what I read.. sorry if my "reading" bothers you.

PatriotsReign · 01-19-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

What do you want to do now, control what I read.. sorry if my "reading" bothers you.

I already control everything you read....you just didn't know it.

***shmessy*** · 01-19-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

Once again, you set up your imaginary "Us against you" scenario. There is nothing in this discussion that includes this fantasy world you're living in.

Good to know you believe the average American is living in a period of prosperity though....

For Americans, 'Cope' Replaces 'Hope': NBC Poll

For Americans, 'Cope' Replaces 'Hope': NBC Poll - Yahoo! Finance

So, in your world, an NBC public opinion poll trumps actual economic data.

Not surprising.

Of course, this "scientific" NBC poll is evidently the replacement for that "Housing Start" number you always used to harp on. Why did you drop that again?

PatriotsReign · 01-19-2013, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

So, in your world, an NBC public opinion poll trumps actual economic data.

Not surprising.

Of course, this "scientific" NBC poll is evidently the replacement for that "Housing Start" number you always used to harp on. Why did you drop that again?

As you're aware, monthly data is fickle and meaningless. But I truly hope your assessment is correct and we'll be seeing Americans flocking back to work.

Let's talk in 4 more years about your period of prosperity that you believe we have entered....k?

Man you can fired up when you post in my threads shmessy!! You seem extremely competitive.

***DarrylS*** · 01-19-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

As you're aware, monthly data is fickle and meaningless. But I truly hope your assessment is correct and we'll be seeing Americans flocking back to work.

Let's talk in 4 more years about your period of prosperity that you believe we have entered....k?

Man you can fired up when you post in my threads shmessy!! You seem extremely competitive.

But you started a thread with fickle and meaningless information... and used the word recession.

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Gasoline Consumption

Gasoline useage continues downward trend and it has almost nothing to do with higher mileage cars. We are now almost at 2001 consumption levels. Gasoline consumption has not only declined, but the rate of decline has accelerated at it's highest rate in 2012.

See attached consumption chart (source below).

Weekly Petroleum Status Report - Energy Information Administration

New Mileage Tax?

Sure...why not? Guess we're gonna see federal, state & local tax increases until our incomes are whittled down to shiit. But heck, at least we'll continue to use less gasoline and our roads will look purty!!

New pay-per-mile scheme would boost taxes 250 percent

New pay-per-mile scheme would boost taxes 250 percent | WashingtonExaminer.com

Americans Tapping into 401k's

25% of Americans with 401k's are withdrawing money from their 401k's just to pay their bills!

401(k) breaches undermining retirement security for millions

401(k) breaches undermining retirement security for millions - The Washington Post

THE GOOD NEWS

Fed discusses breaking up banks that are "Too Big to Fail"! Well that would be terrific....but color me skeptical.

Fed hawk voices doubts over benefits of bond buying - chicagotribune.com

PatriotsReign · 01-19-2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

But you started a thread with fickle and meaningless information... and used the word recession.

I said MONTHLY reports are meaningless...did you READ that? The gasoline consumption chart included a 15 year trend and the 401k article was a continuing trend as well big fella.

Where exactly did I quote a monthly report Mrs....I mean, Darryl?

***DarrylS*** · 01-19-2013, 08:22 AM

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I said MONTHLY reports are meaningless...did you READ that? The gasoline consumption chart included a 15 year trend big fella.

Where exactly did I quote a monthly report bam-bam?

Your post is laced with anecdotal information, inow you failed once again.. you criticize another poster, but do the same thing yourself.

New Mileage Tax?

New pay-per-mile scheme would boost taxes 250 percent

Self awareness is a very positive virtue..

PatriotsReign · 01-19-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrylS

Your post is laced with anecdotal information, inow you failed once again.. you criticize another poster, but do the same thing yourself.

New Mileage Tax?

New pay-per-mile scheme would boost taxes 250 percent

Self awareness is a very positive virtue..

You need to go back to bed Darryl because you're making no sense at all.

I wrote that MONTHLY economic reports are fickle. In my post, I only included one economic report and that was the gasoline consumption trend and it was not a monthly report.

The quotes on new forms of taxes were to show we're heading into a period of tax increases that will affect our economy.

So I'll ask to point out the MONTHLY economic report I included in the OTHER thread. If you can't find it, I strongly suggest you let it go.

***DarrylS*** · 01-19-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

You need to go back to bed Darryl because you're making no sense at all.

I wrote that MONTHLY economic reports are fickle. In my post, I only included one economic report and that was the gasoline consumption trend.

The quotes on new forms of taxes were to show we're heading into a period of tax increases that will affect our economy.

So I'll ask to point out the MONTHLY economic report I included in the OTHER thread. If you can't find it, I strongly suggest you let it go.

And then you stuck in some stuff from a partisan publication, so either you were duped again or just don't know what you are talking about.. none of what you posted had to do with a recession... sorry.