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***Harry Boy*** · 09-26-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

What don't you like? Do you think the future does belong to those who slander the profit of Islam? Or maybe you don't agree that Islam should be allowed to have a profit? How do you like the second part while having a problem with the first?

From watching how The Prophet operates maybe we shouldn't slander him but we damn well better beware of him, from the way things have gone in this world for the last few years it seems pretty clear that the Prophet doesn't care to much for us, I would ask Mr Prophet "not to slander us"

Hebeill · 09-26-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

You can laugh all you want, it's a free country Heb. But what I wrote is an ABSOLUTE truth, not an opinion son.

What would be funny is if I was one those dopes who felt compelled to only vote for one party under the illusion that one party is more righteous than the other.

Wouldn't you agree Heb?

In your brief life, how many republicans have you voted for Heb?

No my Boy, its the other way around, and ive been reading your posts for going on three years. While your not a con a good deal of the time you lean that way.

***Harry Boy*** · 09-26-2012, 07:44 AM

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I voted for Barak Obama and I'm not from the "the right"....but I am also not "for" Obama any longer. Not being "for" someone does not mean one is "against" them.

You often (very often) need to get a deeper understanding of the human psyche Patters....you can be shallow.

I have left wing friends who I am constantly fighting with but many of them feel just as you do they have become disgusted with Obama in almost everything he has done and all of the things they expected him to do but he didn't especially "War" "Gitmo" and his murderous "Drones" not to mention "The Economy" Democrat Liberals don't like the thought of it but there are many within their own ranks that can't stand the man.

The Brandon Five · 09-26-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

What don't you like? Do you think the future does belong to those who slander the profit of Islam? Or maybe you don't agree that Islam should be allowed to have a profit? How do you like the second part while having a problem with the first?

I have a problem with him going out of his way to defend the prophet. He keeps trying to link the death of the ambassador to this dumb movie. He knows that there is no link and has known since the day after the assassination.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ffiliates.html

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Within 24 hours of the 9-11 anniversary attack on the United States consulate in Benghazi, U.S. intelligence agencies had strong indications al Qaeda–affiliated operatives were behind the attack, and had even pinpointed the location of one of those attackers. Three separate U.S. intelligence officials who spoke to The Daily Beast said the early information was enough to show that the attack was planned and the work of al Qaeda affiliates operating in Eastern Libya.

The excerpt of that film I saw was downright goofy. I can see how some were offended, but I honestly didn't even take it seriously. It's like a parody of itself. I don't see the slander. I guess the Ayatollah was right ("there is no humor in Islam").

He did marry a six year old with whom he consummated the marriage when she was nine or ten (depending on the biography you read).

***Harry Boy*** · 09-26-2012, 08:54 AM

Liberals used to love this guy, they won't like what he has to say now...

Ralph Nader: President Obama

PatriotsReign · 09-26-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hebeill

No my Boy, its the other way around, and ive been reading your posts for going on three years. While your not a con a good deal of the time you lean that way.

And aren't ALL our beliefs/leanings a good thing for ALL of us? Isn't that what America is all about.

A much larger problem in this country are citizens who stick to their party's beliefs....and that's not an opinion.

So, you didn't answer my question Hebeill....how many republicans have you voted for in your life?

PatriotsReign · 09-26-2012, 09:53 AM

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United Nations Headquarters is under the administration of the United Nations, and is subject to most local, state, and federal laws, and whether or not you like it or not he has the freedom to say what he wishes... there are no laws forcing you to listen.

If and when I hear someone put a bullet through Ahmadinejad's brain, I'll smile.

***DarrylS*** · 09-26-2012, 11:39 AM

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If and when I hear someone put a bullet through Ahmadinejad's brain, I'll smile.

No due process for him..

He talks a big game, and is a loudmouth.. but what has he actually done beside rattle sabres???...

PatsWSB47 · 09-26-2012, 02:58 PM

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What a ridiculous article. In fact, "with the advancing of Union forces," it did not bring a new day. First the North had to defeat those backward folks from the South. Advancement alone didn't do anything. What an idiot Obama is. Unless of course he was speaking metaphorically, in which case what he said is accurate -- perhaps that right wing rag needs to learn a little more about how the English language works.

I'm leaning toward he didn't know the history of when slavery ended. It is a very common mistake people make with what the Emancipation Proclamation actually did. It's at least plausible that he was speaking metaphorically or maybe he he figured most people think that anyway so just go with it. Still I think he just repeated the incorrect "common knowledge" meaning of the Proclamation.

***Patters*** · 09-26-2012, 03:33 PM

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I'm leaning toward he didn't know the history of when slavery ended. It is a very common mistake people make with what the Emancipation Proclamation actually did. It's at least plausible that he was speaking metaphorically or maybe he he figured most people think that anyway so just go with it. Still I think he just repeated the incorrect "common knowledge" meaning of the Proclamation.

It's possible he didn't know. I don't recall learning that. But, I think he was not intending to give a history lesson. The advance of the Union Forces did lead to a new a day that resulted in the end of slavery. But, taken literally, he was wrong by any standard, since it wasn't the advance of the Union forces that brought a new day. That advance didn't really start until well into the war, and the Emancipation Proclamation only affected slaves as Union forces conquered the South. Further, slavery wasn't made illegal until the the 13th amendment was passed at the end of the war, which I would presume Obama knows as most educated people know. So, my guess, he was simplifying our history for the sake of making a moral point. What he knew and didn't know about the details is anyone's guess.