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Old 10-02-2012, 10:30 AM   #21
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Well one has to wonder if the guns that murdered this agent were from Fast and Furious. Note that the MSM has ignored the Univision show documenting the mayhem committed by criminals wielding the Guns Obama allowed to walk into Mexico without telling the Mexican government.
The thread title you are replying to is celebratory and inappropriate.

This is a human tragedy - - just like the tens of thousands of human tragedies each year by guns in our nation.

No one on EITHER side should rub their hands with glee and joke about "shovel ready projects" in order to make some political point. No matter if it is against Holder or the NRA.

It is a question of one's humanity.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:35 AM   #22
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The thread title you are replying to is celebratory and inappropriate.

This is a human tragedy - - just like the tens of thousands of human tragedies each year by guns in our nation.

No one on EITHER side should rub their hands with glee and joke about "shovel ready projects" in order to make some political point. No matter if it is against Holder or the NRA.

It is a question of one's humanity.
Sadly Shmess our current political environment is toxic to the point that partisans (D and R) celebrate this "type" of stuff.

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:53 AM   #23
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The thread title you are replying to is celebratory and inappropriate.

This is a human tragedy - - just like the tens of thousands of human tragedies each year by guns in our nation.

No one on EITHER side should rub their hands with glee and joke about "shovel ready projects" in order to make some political point. No matter if it is against Holder or the NRA.

It is a question of one's humanity.

I replied to the merged thread.

The tragedy that perhaps was caused by criminally negligent behavior by the Obama administration.

No one is rubbing their hands. They are pointing out how irresponsible the administration is and how they place innocent Americans and Mexicans at risk.

They certainly should be judged on that.
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Bush era gun running operations is the key, how does anyone know what guns were used at which time.. the whole thing was a foolish strategy by both administrations.
Blaming someone else doesnt work this time.

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I replied to the merged thread.

The tragedy that perhaps was caused by criminally negligent behavior by the Obama administration.

No one is rubbing their hands. They are pointing out how irresponsible the administration is and how they place innocent Americans and Mexicans at risk.

They certainly should be judged on that.
Perhaps, is that the standard of evidence that you employ??

Right now you do not know much about anything, but pretty confident by the end of the day your dearly beloved blogs will have all sorts of conclusions about this..

FYI the gunrunner operations are not the sole source of guns in Mexico, there were plenty there before and there are plenty flowing in there as we type. It could be attributable to Fast and Furious, but no one knows right now.
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Well one has to wonder if the guns that murdered this agent were from Fast and Furious. Note that the MSM has ignored the Univision show documenting the mayhem committed by criminals wielding the Guns Obama allowed to walk into Mexico without telling the Mexican government.
The murders are bad enough, but the silence from the liberal media is pathetic.

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Perhaps, is that the standard of evidence that you employ??

Right now you do not know much about anything, but pretty confident by the end of the day your dearly beloved blogs will have all sorts of conclusions about this..

FYI the gunrunner operations are not the sole source of guns in Mexico, there were plenty there before and there are plenty flowing in there as we type. It could be attributable to Fast and Furious, but no one knows right now.

Well Univision document serial numbers of guns allowed in Mexico from Fast and Furious were involved in many murders in Mexico including 16 teenagers slaughtered at a birthday party.

As to this latest killing we don't know yet, but certainly it is part of the mosaic with the Terry murder and the generally lax approach taken by the administration towards border security, see the curtailment of fence building for example.
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Well Univision document serial numbers of guns allowed in Mexico from Fast and Furious were involved in many murders in Mexico including 16 teenagers slaughtered at a birthday party.

As to this latest killing we don't know yet, but certainly it is part of the mosaic with the Terry murder and the generally lax approach taken by the administration towards border security, see the curtailment of fence building for example.
Your post sounds an awful lot like Mayor Bloomberg's complaint against the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Virginia Ready to Repeal One-Handgun-Per-Month Rule - Law Blog - WSJ

Perhaps supplying guns to ANY miscreant is not such a great idea

But no one should ever joke about "shovel ready jobs" when connected with any human being's murder. I would condemn any left-wing poster who within hours of someone's death by shooting would write a thread title of "Here's Another Shovel Ready Job Brought To You By The Governor of Virginia". Within hours of the tragedy and not knowing anything of the circumstances, it is just opportunistic and disrespectful. Let the facts come out first before jumping to your "checkmate!!!" exclamations.
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Well Univision document serial numbers of guns allowed in Mexico from Fast and Furious were involved in many murders in Mexico including 16 teenagers slaughtered at a birthday party.

As to this latest killing we don't know yet, but certainly it is part of the mosaic with the Terry murder and the generally lax approach taken by the administration towards border security, see the curtailment of fence building for example.
There was not supposed to be a fence in this remote part of Arizona..

Stop the silliness, do you really believe that if we built a 1000 mile fence, it would make a difference???

You folks are sick, all you want to do is a victory lap because "perhaps" a gun from fast and furious killed a border agent, have some respect for the agent and their families..

You need to get a values check, and stop coming to conclusions that fit your agenda..
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