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Old 09-16-2012, 10:31 AM   #41
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define "start"

We first started sending "advisors" to Vietnam under Ike. Or is he now considered "not a true Republican"?


Kennedy and Johnson sent in the troops to fight the war.
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Kennedy and Johnson sent in the troops to fight the war.
Yes, they did.

And Eisenhower kicked it all off.

So, again, define "start."
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OMFG! That would sure suck for me as my stance has always been that all religions deserve to be ridiculed because RELIGIONS ARE LIES!

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Whether having a religion or not having one is a lie or not is in fact debatable...but if one can find faith, then they have found truth.
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That's how I see it also - The Salefi's are scared crap of becoming westernized.
"Westernized"....what a bs term. I don't think any country can become "westernized". Any advancement or modernization has nothing to do with the "west".

Societies are SUPPOSED become more advanced and modern. So I don't see how they can avoid it.
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Faith is belief in the absence of evidence; it is not the truth, but the suspension of critical faculties usually enlisted in efforts to find truth.

If one has faith, one does not have truth; however, one does get to take a rest.

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Yes, they did.

And Eisenhower kicked it all off.

So, again, define "start."

Combat vs non combat roles.
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"Westernized"....what a bs term. I don't think any country can become "westernized". Any advancement or modernization has nothing to do with the "west".

Societies are SUPPOSED become more advanced and modern. So I don't see how they can avoid it.

Your last part is correct ... but IMO my first part applies - we get blamed regardless.

The internet has to be the worst thing to happen to hard core regimes of the world.
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The MB has a history and a clear agenda, that faith of naive liberals notwithstanding.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. BiBi N is well aware of the MB it's history and agenda. Is Obama Ignorant of that history and agenda, just stupid, or does he sympathize with their agenda?
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What an absolutely idiotic post this turned in to be, now we want to blame a specific party for who started which war.. not that congress had anything to do with any of this, as they have the power to declare war..

WWII, Hitler invaded Poland.. yada yada, then Japan bombed Hawaii... does not sound like we were looking for a war, we only got involved when we had no choice. We were a very reluctant country..

WWI is comparable, but not as obvious..

After a day when the Patriots lose, this seems very silly.. get a grip.
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Combat vs non combat roles.
That's not an indefensible definition but I think it's also short-sighted. Ike got us involved financially and then with personnel.
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