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Old 09-13-2012, 10:45 AM   #21
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The point is and i think you agree is that free speech reigns unless it can cause public safety issues. Now after all thats happened if some movie house wanted to show this film they wouldn't be allowed to depending on where. If this film were shown in Detroit there would be riots because of the large Muslim population.
True, there is a large grey zone and no hard and fast rule...The right not to get offended shouldn't rule but as you said, consider whether it will be a public safety issue....
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:49 AM   #22
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I guess your opinions on art, like Obama and his opinion on gay marriage, have evolved.

You used to think people had things called personal accountability and basic respect and that we shouldn't let people "get away with it on a social (not legal) level," when they did things which mocked other's religion or beliefs.
I still believe that and ask myself the same questions....and at the same time support the freedom to express one's opinion freely no matter how disgusting it may be.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:51 AM   #23
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Really, if you incited a riot for something you said you would be arrested for guess what, inciting a riot. If the nazi party went into a jewish neighbor hood carrying signs that said hitler was right death to jews and a riot started the leaders of the nazi group would be arrested for inciting a riot. If this movie was shown here in the US and a riot started, or someone was killed there would be a consequence for the producers etc So free speech doesn't reign supreme
Yet no one incited any riots on American soil, did they? And we have millions of Muslim-Americans on this soil who apparently support free speech.

It's not against the law for you or I to incite a riot in Egypt or Lybia while in the United States, is it?

If I can incite a riot in another country from here, shame on that country.
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Where did you get that it was a 14 minute YouTube movie??
It could be the longest movie ever made and it wouldn't matter MrsP. RW's point still applies, doesn't it?
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That's all there is on youtube. A 14 minute clip of the movie. I tried my local Redbox, but when I couldn't find it in bluray, I stopped looking. Anyone know if it's on Netflix?


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The man behind video excerpts from an anti-Muslim movie that provoked mobs in Egypt and Libya said Wednesday that he has gone into hiding. But doubts rose about the man’s exact identity amid a flurry of false claims about his background and role in the purported film. The filmmaker, who identified himself in a telephone interview with The Associated Press as Sam Bacile, said he is an Israeli-born, Jewish writer and director of Innocence of Muslims. Bacile was the name used to publish excerpts of the movie online as early as July 2.

But some key facts about Bacile’s background and role in the film crumbled Wednesday as a Christian activist involved in the film project said that Bacile was a pseudonym, that he was not Jewish or Israeli, and that a group of Americans of Mideast origin collaborated on the film. Officials in Israel also said there was no record of Bacile as an Israeli citizen.

Doubts mounted as well about the provenance of the film, Innocence of Muslims. Several Hollywood and California film industry groups and permit agencies said they had no records of the project. Only an employee at a faded Hollywood movie theater confirmed that an entire version of the film had staged a brief run several months ago.

All that currently exists of the film are about 13 minutes of excerpts on YouTube, in English and Arabic language versions. While the excerpts were still viewable online in the U.S. on Wednesday, they vanished from the Web in Egypt. Cairo residents who tried to view the YouTube site instead got a warning that “this content is not available in your country due to a legal complaint.”
'Innocence of Muslims': Who is Sam Bacile? | Inside Movies | EW.com
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I guess your opinions on art, like Obama and his opinion on gay marriage, have evolved.

You used to think people had things called personal accountability and basic respect and that we shouldn't let people "get away with it on a social (not legal) level," when they did things which mocked other's religion or beliefs.
You might have a point if the people that were killed had anything to do with making the movie.

By that line of reasoning we should just start carpet bombing all the Muslim nations, or nuke them, because of radical Muslims.
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You might have a point if the people that were killed had anything to do with making the movie.

By that line of reasoning we should just start carpet bombing all the Muslim nations, or nuke them, because of radical Muslims.
Huh??????????
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Huh??????????
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This "Innocence of Muslims" is a movie we would have never hear of if
it was not for the "Radical Muslims".

People are now flocking to youtube to get a peak about what the fuss
is all about. The one hour and 32 minute "Innocence of Mulims" posted
yesterday has almost 2 million views.

The brainless "Radical Muslims" will make this movie the brokeback mountain
of 2012.

If the creator is not killed, he will probably become a rich man.

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The brainless "Radical Muslims" will make this movie the brokeback mountain
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Brokeback Mountain started riots and gave people excuses to kill other people???

I never knew.
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