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09-12-2012, 07:28 AM
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Where does the Republican Party go from here?
Rush Limbaugh recently said that if Obama wins, it will be the end of the Republican Party. And the truth is, the Republicans face a really difficult situation whether Obama wins or not. Minorities of all kinds tend to favor a stronger role for the federal government than most Republicans favor, and as a result generally support Democrats. In addition, Democrats are well positioned and actively trying to connect with veterans, another group that benefits from government largess.
On the right, you have an awkward coalition of traditional Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians. If that coalition is not enough to get Republicans elected to the presidency, how do they expand the coalition without jeopardizing other parts of it? It seems to me their main strategy if Obama gets elected is to hope the economy goes into a tailspin so that people become desperate for an alternative. But, that might not happen, and even if it does, the promise of cutting the safety net is not necessarily enticing.
Given the reality of changing demographics, will the Republican Party survive? Who will be the new Republicans?
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09-12-2012, 08:47 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
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Originally Posted by Patters
Rush Limbaugh recently said that if Obama wins, it will be the end of the Republican Party. And the truth is, the Republicans face a really difficult situation whether Obama wins or not. Minorities of all kinds tend to favor a stronger role for the federal government than most Republicans favor, and as a result generally support Democrats. In addition, Democrats are well positioned and actively trying to connect with veterans, another group that benefits from government largess.
On the right, you have an awkward coalition of traditional Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians. If that coalition is not enough to get Republicans elected to the presidency, how do they expand the coalition without jeopardizing other parts of it? It seems to me their main strategy if Obama gets elected is to hope the economy goes into a tailspin so that people become desperate for an alternative. But, that might not happen, and even if it does, the promise of cutting the safety net is not necessarily enticing.
Given the reality of changing demographics, will the Republican Party survive? Who will be the new Republicans?
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After what the GOP did to Ron Paul supporters I would not bet on the republicans getting the libertarian vote....
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09-12-2012, 08:52 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
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Given the reality of changing demographics, will the Republican Party survive? Who will be the new Republicans?
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I don't know...I'm hoping someone like Jon Huntsman leads them out of the wilderness, though.
You and Rush are not alone in your assessment....Laura Ingraham agrees.
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Speaking to the GOP, Ingraham said, "If you can't beat Barack Obama with this record, then shut down the party. Shut it down. Start new, with new people."
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Laura Ingraham To GOP: 'If You Can't Beat Obama With This Record, Then Shut Down The Party' (AUDIO)
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09-12-2012, 10:33 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
Starting in 2006, and then "officially" in 2008, the GOP was "finished". At least that's what I kept hearing. Then 2010 happened. Supposedly 2010 was the coming "end" for democrats, and now they're in a 50/50 race for the WH. So the end of days crap is really meaningless in a Coke and Pepsi system. Why? Cuz the "other" team only has to be as good as their opponents starter. When those starters are inept maroons like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, or complete novices like Barack Obama, the republicans (Coke if u prefer) will never be out of the game for long. The same applies for the democrats. When idiots like Mitch McConnell & Cries alot John Bonehead are running the show, the other team will always have a chance. This country has no capable, intelligent, experienced leadership. At all. The country will die before either of the party's do.
What Rush might be right about, is that the republican party as he knows it might be cooked. The days of the neo-con are numbered.
Forget the parties surviving. If the government doesn't get its fiscal house in order, it'll be the country that doesn't survive. Giving out free ****, while simutaneously running a welfare state (corporate, military, and civlian), has us on a path to implosion.
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09-12-2012, 10:39 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
The GOP is not going to lose.
So many people who voted for Obie in 2008 wouldnt vote for him as Dog Catcher.
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09-12-2012, 11:11 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
These are opinion sharers not leaders... did the Democrats go away in 2005?
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09-12-2012, 11:14 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
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The GOP is not going to lose.
So many people who voted for Obie in 2008 wouldnt vote for him as Dog Catcher.
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Obama's gonna win handily. I look forward to gloating when it happens.
BTW: did you see Obama outraised Romney in August? Looks like the smart money can see the writing on the wall. And after Romney's Lehman moment today... hoo boy.
Not ready for primetime!
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09-12-2012, 11:16 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
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These are opinion sharers not leaders... did the Democrats go away in 2005?
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Rush claimed that he was the leader of the Republican Party, and none of its "leaders" challenged him.. so what are we to assume.
The "elected leaders" of the right are scared of that pill popping freak..
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09-12-2012, 11:18 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
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Rush claimed that he was the leader of the Republican Party, and none of its "leaders" challenged him.. so what are we to assume.
The "elected leaders" of the right are scared of that pill popping freak..
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Thus Ezra Klein, Rachael Maddow and that Kos dude are the leaders of the Democrats? Please...
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09-12-2012, 11:29 AM
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Re: Where does the Republican Party go from here?
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Obama's gonna win handily. I look forward to gloating when it happens.
BTW: did you see Obama outraised Romney in August? Looks like the smart money can see the writing on the wall. And after Romney's Lehman moment today... hoo boy.
Not ready for primetime!
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Well the Obama bounce is dissipating rapidly his response to the latest 9-11 attacks on the us won't help.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows President Obama attracting support from 46% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns 45% of the vote.
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