PatriotsReign

Can't believe they were offered 16% raises over 4 years and they're striking anyway. Teachers shouldn't be allowed to strike, yet they do.

"Late Sunday, Mr. Emanuel told reporters that school district officials had presented a strong offer to the union, including what some officials described as what would amount to a 16 percent raise for many teachers over four years — and that only two minor issues remained. “This is totally unnecessary, it’s avoidable and our kids do not deserve this,” Mr. Emanuel said, describing the decision as “a strike of choice.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/ed...e.html?_r=1&hp

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Mrs.PatsFanInVa

And I can't believe that you'd think you were qualified to make a decision about what Chicago teachers (including my daughter-in-law, BTW) should or should not be doing.

Especially since the article you cite doesn't give word one about what the teachers are asking for or why - but only gives Rahm's version of the contract details.

Did you ever stop to think that they were holding out - not over money - but over their class sizes and other things which concerned not only themselves but their student's education and well-being, as well?

Triumph

When someone says its not about the money, its about the money.

Real World

Chicago teachers went on strike today. Apparently they rejected a 16% raise when doing so. Do you think in a situation like this, the city should have the right to fire the union, or walk away from the union, and hire their own teachers? The contract is up I think, so why does the city, or any entity that employs a union, be forced into agreeing to another contract when the previous deal has expired? Once a contract is up, shouldn't each party be free to go in their own direction? I've never quite understood why there's a forced obligation once a contract has expired.



How Much Do Chicago Public School Teachers Make?

June 12, 2012 3:59 PM


Reporting Dana Kozlov

Updated 06/12/12 – 7:24 p.m.

CHICAGO (CBS) –

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During a vote taken last week, 90 percent of the city’s public school teachers voted to authorize a walkout, if no contract compromise is reached.

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A Chicago Public Schools spokesperson said average pay for teachers, without benefits, is $76,000.

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By comparison, teachers in New York City earn an average of $73,751. That would be less than the average $76,000 average salary for Chicago teachers cited by CPS, but more than the $71,000 average cited by the union. Depending on which is accurate, Chicago would either be first or second in the nation in average teacher salary. However, Los Angeles teachers make $67,600. The number drops to about $54,000 in Dallas, and just over $52,000 in Miami.

How Much Do Chicago Public School Teachers Make? « CBS Chicago

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Drewski

What are graduation rates and grades like in Chi-town versus other cities?

Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Isn't there some rule about double threads?

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-...e-but-they.htm

Real World

The link won't open, but if there is another thread on this already, my appologies. I didn't see one. I can move my post over into that thread.

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Mrs.PatsFanInVa

Sorry...try this one:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-...-but-they.html

Real World

** I'm merging my comments in a thread I started **


Chicago teachers went on strike today. Apparently they rejected a 16% raise when doing so. Do you think in a situation like this, the city should have the right to fire the union, or walk away from the union, and hire their own teachers? The contract is up I think, so why does the city, or any entity that employs a union, be forced into agreeing to another contract when the previous deal has expired? Once a contract is up, shouldn't each party be free to go in their own direction? I've never quite understood why there's a forced obligation once a contract has expired.



How Much Do Chicago Public School Teachers Make?

June 12, 2012 3:59 PM


Reporting Dana Kozlov

Updated 06/12/12 – 7:24 p.m.

CHICAGO (CBS) –

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During a vote taken last week, 90 percent of the city’s public school teachers voted to authorize a walkout, if no contract compromise is reached.

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A Chicago Public Schools spokesperson said average pay for teachers, without benefits, is $76,000.

---------------

By comparison, teachers in New York City earn an average of $73,751. That would be less than the average $76,000 average salary for Chicago teachers cited by CPS, but more than the $71,000 average cited by the union. Depending on which is accurate, Chicago would either be first or second in the nation in average teacher salary. However, Los Angeles teachers make $67,600. The number drops to about $54,000 in Dallas, and just over $52,000 in Miami.

How Much Do Chicago Public School Teachers Make? « CBS Chicago

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IcyPatriot

I did the merge ... bill on the way.