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IllegalContact · 09-07-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver

Yeah...adding 98,000 jobs and lowering unemployment is somehow terrible?

I don't treat the jobs report as a wall street projection, I treat it as a plus or minus. Its PLUS adding jobs, and MINUS unemployment. To me thats headed in the right direction.

the truth is in the details.....the unemployment numbers changed because people stopped looking for work

but don't let that stop you from waving your pom poms.

our problems can be solved.....for real this time

Charlotte Pats Fan · 09-07-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver

huh?

350k people stopped looking for jobs. Are you counting unemployed people as part of the workforce?

I get it that we need to create at least 150k to keep up with population growth, but look at the graph, and see the trend.

from LOSING 750k jobs a month to ADDING 98K this last month, and trendind upward.

Obama battles job crisis: 3 years...and counting - CNNMoney

People seem to forget how BAD things were a few years ago, I know I don't...

There is still a lot of work to do, but if its trending up, I'm good.

My fault I should have been clearer. How do you feel about the 350,000 + people dropping out of the workforce.

Holy Diver · 09-07-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlotte Pats Fan

My fault I should have been clearer. How do you feel about the 350,000 + people dropping out of the workforce.

(whistle) 5 yards for rhetoricality, still 2nd down.

Im sad about the #s, but positive about the trend. My memory can recall what it was like in 2008.

Real World · 09-07-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Diver

I doubt ANY politician can out speak Bubba.....

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Originally Posted by Drewski

Agreed, I would put him up there with Lincoln for sure.

I think George Washington was better. Are Lincoln's speeches on Youtube?

***shmessy*** · 09-07-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by patsfan13

The nations is pretty polarized, there are very many undecided voters at this point. Not many people to bounce.

Can we get a translator, please?

Holy Diver · 09-07-2012, 03:17 PM

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I think George Washington was better. Are Lincoln's speeches on Youtube?

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***patsfan13*** · 09-07-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

Can we get a translator, please?

If there are more undecided voters there is more room for movement in the polls. Currently the Rasmussen poll has the race at 47-45% Romney 2% normally go to third party candidates that leave ~6% undecided.

119,000 fewer people working in August than in July as per the NFP.

Lowest male workforce participation ever measured since 1948.

Where will the bounce come from?

Titus Pullo · 09-07-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriot_in_NY

I actually doubt it. Don't get me wrong, Obama is a good debater, but he's in a far different position this time around. He'll actually have to defend his policy, which for a large portion of the peoples, are not very popular. He can't just stand up there and say "I am the way... and I am the light" like he did last time.

No, all he has to do is remind Mitt and the audience how close we were to the end in Sept. of 2008, and to put it all in perspective.

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Originally Posted by Patriot_in_NY

Mitt just has to not make any glaring errors and keep hammering on Obama's unpopular policy moves like Obamacare (as one example).

Mitt can't even go to the Olympics without making a glaring error. He's a walking cringe of awkward.

But you're right if you mean his strategy should be to just keep quiet and stick to the talking point script of perpetual hypocrisy.