Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce? - Page 3 - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Five Thoughts On Tebow
'13 NFL Previews Are In
Tebow at QB? No Way

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > Off Topic Forums > Political Discussion
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

View Poll Results: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?
Obama 10 52.63%
Romney 1 5.26%
Neither 8 42.11%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

Like Tree14Likes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #21
All Pro Poster
 
Holy Diver's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Big Frisco
Posts: 10,798
My Mood: Angelic
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Wasn't Romney's 'bounce' something like 1%?

I'm pretty sure thats an easy one to beat.
Holy Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 09-07-2012, 11:12 AM   #22
In the Starting Line-up
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North Attleboro MA
Posts: 2,748
My Mood: Mellow
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Diver View Post
Wasn't Romney's 'bounce' something like 1%?

I'm pretty sure thats an easy one to beat.
Very true HD.

My only question is if your bump (Obama's) has more to do with an ex-POTUS's speech than it does with your speech/ideas (which from what I have read, other than policy on Education, there weren't many spoken to), what does that mean?

1 is the loneliest number
Drewski is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:12 AM   #23
Moderator
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 22,424
My Mood: Fine
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Diver View Post
Wasn't Romney's 'bounce' something like 1%?

I'm pretty sure thats an easy one to beat.

Today's job report will wipe out any bounce.
__________________
"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
patsfan13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:35 AM   #24
All Pro Poster
 
Holy Diver's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Big Frisco
Posts: 10,798
My Mood: Angelic
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by patsfan13 View Post
Today's job report will wipe out any bounce.
Yeah...adding 98,000 jobs and lowering unemployment is somehow terrible?

I don't treat the jobs report as a wall street projection, I treat it as a plus or minus. Its PLUS adding jobs, and MINUS unemployment. To me thats headed in the right direction.
Holy Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:39 AM   #25
All Pro Poster
 
Holy Diver's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Big Frisco
Posts: 10,798
My Mood: Angelic
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewski View Post
Very true HD.

My only question is if your bump (Obama's) has more to do with an ex-POTUS's speech than it does with your speech/ideas (which from what I have read, other than policy on Education, there weren't many spoken to), what does that mean?

1 is the loneliest number
I doubt ANY politician can out speak Bubba.....

It says a lot about Obama that Clinton delivered his nomination, and his VP and Wife are getting so many props on their speeches. It means that his supporters are excited to get people excited about him.

Romney was outshined by an ikea chair. got a 1% bump.

you do the math.
Holy Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:47 AM   #26
In the Starting Line-up
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North Attleboro MA
Posts: 2,748
My Mood: Mellow
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Diver View Post
I doubt ANY politician can out speak Bubba.....
Agreed, I would put him up there with Lincoln for sure.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Diver View Post
It says a lot about Obama that Clinton delivered his nomination, and his VP and Wife are getting so many props on their speeches. It means that his supporters are excited to get people excited about him.

Romney was outshined by an ikea chair. got a 1% bump.

you do the math.
Maybe I was too vague in my question (or you outright disagree with the premise). My point was/is what does it say about Obama and his chances that the bump he is seeing has nada to do with him or his policy stances and everything to do with:

1. A guy who will probably have zero impact on peoples lives as it pertains to policy.

And to a lesser extent, the First Lady and VP?

I put very little into either convention, in fact I think they mean very little outside of Rebel Rousing the base, people who were already going to be voting for Obama/Romney anyway.

As Nik said previously, with little substance to either guy's speech; policy, road map to getting us out of the doldrums etc, wise, I could make the argument that this is a bump for Clinton more than it is a bump for Obama.

Last edited by Drewski; 09-07-2012 at 11:48 AM..
Drewski is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:53 AM   #27
All Pro Poster
 
Holy Diver's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Big Frisco
Posts: 10,798
My Mood: Angelic
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewski View Post
Agreed, I would put him up there with Lincoln for sure.



Maybe I was too vague in my question (or you outright disagree with the premise). My point was/is what does it say about Obama and his chances that the bump he is seeing has nada to do with him or his policy stances and everything to do with:

1. A guy who will probably have zero impact on peoples lives as it pertains to policy.

And to a lesser extent, the First Lady and VP?

I put very little into either convention, in fact I think they mean very little outside of Rebel Rousing the base, people who were already going to be voting for Obama/Romney anyway.

As Nik said previously, with little substance to either guy's speech; policy, road map to getting us out of the doldrums etc, wise, I could make the argument that this is a bump for Clinton more than it is a bump for Obama.
I see what you are saying, but thats going to be hard to see any data explaining WHY a president gets a boost in percentage after a convention. Just that they normally rise about 5% in the past.

Can we ask ourselves why Romney only got a 1% bump? what caused the 4% to not rally?

those are difficult things to accurately count in polling.

the #s are in for Mitt (1%), we just have to wait and see what Obama gets.
Holy Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 11:59 AM   #28
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Charlotte, NC Via Central Mass
Posts: 746
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Diver View Post
Yeah...adding 98,000 jobs and lowering unemployment is somehow terrible?

I don't treat the jobs report as a wall street projection, I treat it as a plus or minus. Its PLUS adding jobs, and MINUS unemployment. To me thats headed in the right direction.

Is 350,000 + people dropping out of the workforce a plus or minus?
Charlotte Pats Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 12:01 PM   #29
In the Starting Line-up
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North Attleboro MA
Posts: 2,748
My Mood: Mellow
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Diver View Post
I see what you are saying, but thats going to be hard to see any data explaining WHY a president gets a boost in percentage after a convention. Just that they normally rise about 5% in the past.

Can we ask ourselves why Romney only got a 1% bump? what caused the 4% to not rally?

those are difficult things to accurately count in polling.

the #s are in for Mitt (1%), we just have to wait and see what Obama gets.
Cuz aspects of the brand are not popular with Independents? Not to mention, isn't the base still on the fence with his stances/background?

As for your first point, I'm not trying to quantify "Clinton's role" in the bump. Just pointing out that to this reader, after Billy falls back into the shadows, and its back to Obama vs Mitt, does the bump (what is truly there and not just the "National ADD/freshest thing in your mind" bump) survive?

Not sure why I am asking all these questions honestly. Neither one of them will get my vote. But one of them will be the POTUS....
Drewski is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2012, 12:09 PM   #30
All Pro Poster
 
Holy Diver's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Big Frisco
Posts: 10,798
My Mood: Angelic
Default Re: Who do you think will end up with the bigger post convention poll bounce?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlotte Pats Fan View Post
Is 350,000 + people dropping out of the workforce a plus or minus?
huh?

350k people stopped looking for jobs. Are you counting unemployed people as part of the workforce?

I get it that we need to create at least 150k to keep up with population growth, but look at the graph, and see the trend.

from LOSING 750k jobs a month to ADDING 98K this last month, and trendind upward.

Obama battles job crisis: 3 years...and counting - CNNMoney

People seem to forget how BAD things were a few years ago, I know I don't...

There is still a lot of work to do, but if its trending up, I'm good.
Holy Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Poll: Bigger Crybabies? CrazyDave PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 4 12-04-2007 06:51 PM
Post game article, poll bobgeorge PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 4 09-23-2007 07:21 PM
Post game article, poll bobgeorge PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 4 09-17-2007 12:09 AM
Post Game Article, New Poll bobgeorge PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 0 08-27-2006 03:25 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC