IcyPatriot

Mathews just said this on MSNBC ... rather than attack it - I sat there to think about it. On the one hand the younger republicans are gravitating left on social issues. Even some older ones like me have gravitated more left on social issues as the country has changed.

The tea party has definitely pushed the party to the right. Not going to bloviate that in this thread - we've discussed the tea party movement. So I'm not sure mathews is right. However - the republican party is at a crossroads. If it continues to go further right it will lose voters to the democrats.

What will the younger moderate to moderate conservatives think of this.

Do you agree with Mathews?

What is your opinion?

Nikolai

A new right party? I don't see it. If the Dems can find a way to force god and Israel back onto the party platform, I'm sure the Pubs will find a way to pander to both sides of the party.

It's possible you could see rightward members trying to co-opt the Libertarian Party, but that could get ugly. Despite what some think, the Libertarians and the neocons diverge on some pretty basic issues.

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IcyPatriot

I think they are more and more ... good take.

PatsWSB47

I think there was a hostile takeover attempt by the far right but it failed...they just don't know it yet. That ship is sailing away. To advance that the notion that they are winning over the Republican Party is convenient for Mathews's boogie man rhetoric....but this is campaign season and going for the ugly is standard operating procedure. Indeed, Mathews has an agenda that rivals the far right's agenda.

patsfan13

Depends on the social issue, younger conservatives are live and let live on gay issues (marriage aside) but younger women are more anti abortion than older women due ti scientific advances like 4d imaging of babies in the womb.

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Real World

The tea party movement isn't about social issues. It's about fiscal issues and a smaller, more limited, less restrictive government. I'm not sure what "further to the right" means exactly. I guess the question is, the "right" according to whom? If fiscal discipline, individual liberty, and smaller government are the further "right" you speak of, then sure. That's is where the tea party wants to go. If by "further to the right" you're talking about social issues, invading nations, corporate welfare, then that's not the tea party's doing.

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Titus Pullo

Sounds good, but not accurate. It most certainly is about social issues too.

The Tea Party, Religion and Social Issues - Pew Research Center



In fact, their adamant views on certain social issues (the border, for one), actually would REQUIRE bigger government.

Ilikehappyppl

Really? and where were they in 08?
Where were they in 04?
Where were they in 00?
Where were they in 96?
Where were they in 92?
Where were they in 88?
Where were they in 84?
Where were they in 80?

**** where have they been for the last 30 years? When spending was out of control?

Bottom line tea party is a bunch of ungrateful,disrespectful and most of all full of **** and have the balls to try to sell it to the rest of us......

Will they break off? Maybe crazy people do crazy things.....there are a lot of seats at the table...

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Hamar

Sometimes enough is enough. Where was the OWS before? Or, do you think this whole corporate/wallstreet crap happened overnight? Where was the OWS when Obama outspent his opponent 2 to 1? Yeah, they were getting high and ****ting on their parent's cars.

Ilikehappyppl

I didn't know this was about OWS......Way to dodge the point......Anyways......I don't think OWS is all that and a bag of chips.....so......yeah......

Whatever Obama is spending should go in another thread....This is about the Tea Baggers......lol



Edit:Blow it out your ass, enough was enough 10 years ago........loser........Yeah I know I get a point but it felt good!

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