Whats worse Akins unthoughtful comment or Obamas unthoughtful actions? - New England Patriots Forums

Patradomous · 08-20-2012, 10:37 AM

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Babies were inconveniently being born alive, self-styled health-care providers carted them off to utility rooms where they would be left to die. That is infanticide, plain and simple. In Illinois, people tried to stop this barbarism by supporting “born alive” legislation. Barack Obama fought them all the way.

When Obama Voted For Infanticide - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online

***DarrylS*** · 08-20-2012, 10:46 AM

What is worse are the continual lies that are fed to the right, without corraboration or checking the facts.. one might think that they would be tired of being lied to.. but maybe not, they tend to be somewhat desperate..

In their defense of the indefensible, they often try to change the subject to another lie.. it happens all of the time.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ld-born-prema/

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In fact, he said that abortion should be legal, but that children that are born should receive medical care. Obama never said that any child born prematurely can be killed or anything like that. Santorum crosses a line with his rhetoric in distinguishing the difference between his position and Obama’s. We rate Santorum’s statement Pants on Fire.

Patradomous · 08-20-2012, 11:08 AM

LMAO

Your the one changing the subject its not about Santorum.

its about ObaMao voting for infantcide while fighting against a "Born alive" legistlation.

My question is again whats worse unthoughtful words by Akins or thoughtless actions by ObaMao?

Try to keep your eye on the ball this time.

***patsfan13*** · 08-20-2012, 11:17 AM

Well the left leaning 'poliltfact is the one lying.

Obama voted against Born alive acts on multiple occassions links to his actual votes here:

http://www.jillstanek.com/2008/02/li...rotection-act/

At first his excuse is that he would support a bill similar to one the dems stopped in the senate that bush had proposed (back around 2002) when he was presented with the bill worded the way he indicated was acceptable he voted against it.

Obama lies, babies die.

Yes far worse than any statement made by a candidate.

***DarrylS*** · 08-20-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Patradomous

LMAO

Your the one changing the subject its not about Santorum.

its about ObaMao voting for infantcide while fighting against a "Born alive" legistlation.

My question is again whats worse unthoughtful words by Akins or thoughtless actions by ObaMao?

Try to keep your eye on the ball this time.

It is not about Santorum, it is about a lie that Santorum told.. and was debunked, the same lie that is put forth in this article..

It can be confusing for some who follow instead of thinking..

No matter how you paint it, in the wacky world of the right what Akin said is ok, because someone lied about what Obama said.. Rove is proud of his followers.

Get back to me when you view this logically, not hysterically.

Patradomous · 08-20-2012, 11:25 AM

OK I'm back to you logically.

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Obama voted against Born alive acts on multiple occassions links to his actual votes here:

[url]http://www.jillstanek.com/2008/02/links-to-barack-obamas-votes-on-illinois-born-alive-infant-protection-act/]/utl]

Lets try again.

My question is again whats worse unthoughtful words by Akins or thoughtless actions by ObaMao?

Try to keep your eye on the ball this time.

***DarrylS*** · 08-20-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Patradomous

OK I'm back to you logically.

Who is Jill Stanek?? a blogger??

The link does not come up..

Oops I found it she is a vehement pro lifer..

BTW Romney and Ryan both support abortion if a woman is raped and she conceives.. the hardcore right are gonna get their depends in a bunch..

Patradomous · 08-20-2012, 11:31 AM

Links to Barack Obama's votes on Illinois' Born Alive Infant Protection Act | Jill Stanek

***DarrylS*** · 08-20-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Patradomous

Links to Barack Obama's votes on Illinois' Born Alive Infant Protection Act | Jill Stanek

A vehement pro lifer is an unbiased source

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BTW Romney and Ryan both support a woman's right to choose if she conceives if she is raped...

The hard core right are gonna get their depends in a bunch..

What Akins said is the belief of the hardcore right.. Santorum and many others believe that they should carry this child conceived in violence to full term.

Patradomous · 08-20-2012, 11:47 AM

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Following are Obama’s actions and votes on Born Alive. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.

Status of SB1095

Status of SB1662

Lets try again.

My question is again whats worse unthoughtful words by Akins or thoughtless actions by ObaMao?

Try to keep your eye on the ball this time.

But when evidence presented was irrefutable, Obama’s campaign on August 18, 2008, admitted the truth to the New York Sun.
The nonpartison group FactCheck.org has since corroborated Obama voted against identical legislation as passed overwhelmingly on the federal level and then misrepresented his vote.
-http://www.jillstanek.com/2