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Old 07-30-2012, 10:19 PM   #1
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... and de-fund the Small Business Administration, which puts through grants of tens of billions of dollars every year and much more than that in loans.

It's big government on the back of the entrepreneur I tell you.

Wait, how come nobody's screaming to stop doing this? Isn't it marxism or something?

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Old 07-30-2012, 10:48 PM   #2
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... and de-fund the Small Business Administration, which puts through grants of tens of billions of dollars every year and much more than that in loans.

It's big government on the back of the entrepreneur I tell you.

Wait, how come nobody's screaming to stop doing this? Isn't it marxism or something?

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You get SBA loans through banks ... SBA guarantees them which is what makes them attractive. Much harder to get than in years past ... in fact if you are sound enough to get one then you probably do not need one. They like to attach everything they can including your dog and shed in your yard.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:14 PM   #3
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Good start along with lowered business taxes, reining in the EPA, getting rid of Obamacare and tort reform and the tangle of required but unnecessary paperwork at the state, local and federal level.



Getting involved with the government is almost as bad as going into business with Paulie:

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Good start along with lowered business taxes, reining in the EPA, getting rid of Obamacare and tort reform and the tangle of required but unnecessary paperwork at the state, local and federal level.



Getting involved with the government is almost as bad as going into business with Paulie:

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The businesses Romney cited seemed to do well despite being involved with government...

"tort reform" -- any proposals that don't arbitrarily screw people over? Fairly meaningless term when it comes to the real world.
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How much does it cost the SBA to "grant" out a dollar to a small business? $1.25. $1.50, $2 maybe? When the loan or grant goes belly up, guess who foots the bill? Yup, Joe Taxpayer. So while it all sounds nice, is it really efficient, or better yet, necessary? What does the SBA do, that the private sector doesn't, or won't? We need less government involvement in these areas. Not more. Imo at least. I don't think the government i.e. Joe Taxpayer, should be the co-signer on private loans.
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Good start along with lowered business taxes, reining in the EPA, getting rid of Obamacare and tort reform and the tangle of required but unnecessary paperwork at the state, local and federal level.



Getting involved with the government is almost as bad as going into business with Paulie:

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EPA bugging you, 13? Well, you might be the only one:

The EPA's weak oversight -- chicagotribune.com

EPA Challenged By Louisiana Community Over Weak Protections, Environmental Injustice

..."But when has reason triumphed in matters related to food safety? It wasn't until last August that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), after nearly a decade of analysis, announced that it would be releasing a risk assessment of dioxins in food, due out sometime this month.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Caroline Smith DeWaal, the food safety director of the consumer group Center for Science in the Public Interest, praised the EPA's decision.

But food industry groups wasted no time in condemning it. "EPA should exercise as much thought and care as possible about the reassessment's possible impact on consumer attitudes, purchasing decisions, and consumption patterns," the Food Industry Dioxin Working Group (PDF) wrote in comments about the proposed guidelines. The group's members include the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, the International Dairy Foods Association, the National Fisheries Council, the National Pork Producers Council, and the Corn Refiners Association."


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Despite the staggering costs associated with the damage caused by invasive species, the EPA has resisted taking action on the issue for decades. The proposed permit to regulate ballast water discharges comes after a long legal battle. Now, as the nation celebrates the 40th anniversary of the Clean Water Act, advocates are working to ensure the agency finally issues a permit that shuts the door on invasive species.

“The Great Lakes have been global ground zero for invasions and ought to be a global leader in prevention,” said Joel Brammeier, president and CEO of the Alliance for the Great Lakes. “We’ve waited long enough. EPA has the opportunity to apply the protections our waters sorely need. Let’s get it right this time.”


NRDC: Press Release - EPA Permit Too Weak to Protect Great Lakes, U.S. Waters from Ballast Water Invaders

Of course, you won't find any conservative papers on how the EPA has been lax. The only thing you'll find is a lament that there even is an EPA.
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EPA bugging you, 13? Well, you might be the only one:
...Of course, you won't find any conservative papers on how the EPA has been lax. The only thing you'll find is a lament that there even is an EPA.
Well, the free market will take care of the environment, wistah -- didn't you realize that?

Plus, people can always simply sue corporations for damages. After all, litigation against a multibillion corporation is something every citizen relishes. Which is why we need "tort reform," of course...
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Get Big Government out of everything.

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Well, the free market will take care of the environment, wistah -- didn't you realize that?

Plus, people can always simply sue corporations for damages. After all, litigation against a multibillion corporation is something every citizen relishes. Which is why we need "tort reform," of course...
Market forces are doing the environment very well in India and China, I hear.

EPA under Clinton was a disaster. Worse under Bush. Now, it's just treading water, trying (unbelieveably) to stay funded and relevant. This is the only developed country on the planet where half the people actually think the EPA and caring for the environment is a bad thing. In that way, we really are a unique place.
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Market forces are doing the environment very well in India and China, I hear.

EPA under Clinton was a disaster. Worse under Bush. Now, it's just treading water, trying (unbelieveably) to stay funded and relevant. This is the only developed country on the planet where half the people actually think the EPA and caring for the environment is a bad thing. In that way, we really are a unique place.
and the US prior to regulatios -- things were pristine, Wistah!
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