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Old 07-15-2012, 09:24 AM   #1
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Here's a story that needs more investigation. Who should we believe? The 21 year old Romney (Mr-I-Was-CEO-But-Am-Not-Responsible-For-Anything), who is incapable of taking personal responsibility or the kindly father Albert Marie, beloved by his little parish.But, wait, there's more! There was no Albert Marie. Romney lied. It was Bishop Vilnet who was driving the other car, not Albert Marie. And Bishop Vilnet is still alive and highly regarded. Let's hope the MSM vets this story well. After all, do we want a drunken murderer as president? Harry Boy, what are you going to!

Mitt Romney was driving during an accident in the 60s that killed a passenger - Detroit liberal | Examiner.com

This was first reported by The Boston Globe in 2007 when they told the story of Mitt Romney almost dying in Bernos-Beaulac, France while driving a Citroen DS. Romney, who was 21 at the time, was driving from Pau to Bordeaux as a chauffeur for Duane Anderson the French Mormon mission president.

Romney tells the story of going around a curve and being struck at full speed by a Catholic priest named Albert Marie. Romney claimed Albert Marie was drunk but this has never been verified. Conversely it was not been verified if Romney was under the influence at the time of the accident, because he was unconscious and in a coma. The first police officer to arrive wrote, "he is dead" in Romney's passport. There is no record if a sobriety test was issued after Romney regained consciousness who escaped the crash with a broken arm and lacerations to the face.

Daily Kos: Mitt Romney's Cult of Lying and Bishop Jean Vilnet

The "drunk priest" named "Albert Marie" of Mitt Romney's imaginative fantasy about that 1968 accident has been spread around to his own family, to the families of the other Mormons involved, New York Times, The Guardian, Washington Post, Boston Globe, to Michael Kranish and Scott Helman for their book, "The Real Romney." That person does not exist. Never did. ...

Bishop Vilnet, then 46 years old by American count, was not drunk, not speeding, and not out of his own lane. He was driving along and Romney hit him.

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Mgr. Vilnet was elected head of the Council of Bishops of France. He is an Officer of the Legion of Honor. A life of service. He is 90 years old. (Mitt Romney says that "Albert Marie" is dead. Guarantee you, somebody somewhere with the two names Albert and Marie is dead.)

That 1968 accident took place when Mitt Romney ignored painted roadway lines and went head-on into an on-coming left turn lane, opposite the post office at Beaulac, France. Concrete traffic separators were added later on. Good piece of engineering, that, but too late for Mrs. Leola Anderson. She died of her injuries as she was the sixth person in a five passenger car, so she had no seat belt.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:36 AM   #2
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Wow...what a bullsh1t article based upon pure speculation.

Why on earth would you even post this Patters? Is because you'll do anything NOT to have Romney elected?

So, you think the French gov't would help a 21 year old American if he had killed a French priest?

I'm fine with what was reported...totally fine.

How many times did you vote for Ted Kennedy Patters?
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Wow...what a bullsh1t article based upon pure speculation.

Why on earth would you even post this Patters? Is because you'll do anything NOT to have Romney elected?
There's no low the left won't sink to in their never ending quest of the hateful politics of personal destruction. Although I do find it amusing that, perhaps for the first time, Patters is acknowledging that the incident at Chappaquidick was a scandal. Until this morning it as always been a "tragedy" with no one at fault.

Fact is there's no evidence whatsoever to suggest Romney was doing anything wrong. When your best source is the Daily Kos, that pretty much sums up the legitimacy of your thesis.

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Here's a story that needs more investigation. Who should we believe? The 21 year old Romney (Mr-I-Was-CEO-But-Am-Not-Responsible-For-Anything), who is incapable of taking personal responsibility or the kindly father Albert Marie, beloved by his little parish.
Just more hateful, angry politics of personal destruction from the left. This is what you yourself called a "desperate theory by hateful people."

"With the tragic accident at Chappaquidik, the right-wing has tried to turn him into a cold-blooded murderer. When people judge the now deceased Kennedy for the accident at Chappaquidik, they are ignorant of the facts or clinging to desperate theories by hateful people." - Patters

Now don't go banning me from the thread! Using your own words against you to make you look foolish is not a violation of forum rules!
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Just more hateful, angry politics of personal destruction from the left. This is what you yourself called a "desperate theory by hateful people."

"With the tragic accident at Chappaquidik, the right-wing has tried to turn him into a cold-blooded murderer. When people judge the now deceased Kennedy for the accident at Chappaquidik, they are ignorant of the facts or clinging to desperate theories by hateful people." - Patters

Now don't go banning me from the thread! Using your own words against you to make you look foolish is not a violation of forum rules!
End of story....
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I think after the $40 million witchhunt of Clinton, the swift-boating of Kerry, and the attacks on Obama's citizenship and religion, the Dems would be fools to ignore issues like this. What the Republicans have established is that the way to win is to use whatever is available to go after the credibility of a person, and the Dems should do the same. It is quite obvious to me that those who don't like Obama and like Romney are freaking about what the Dems are doing on Bain, on Romney's taxes, and perhaps on this issue. Well, thank Karl Rove for this, and frankly the righties in this forum were right with the Karl Rovian strategies in most cases. The politics of personal destruction is effective, and certainly if Romney is lying about this tragic accident, it warrants at least as much attention in this forum as the righties have given to Kennedy and Chappaquidik.

And, Wolfpack, I still stand by my comments about Chappaquidik, but given the fact that the righties continued to use it even after Kennedy died, I'm simply recognizing that the right has established the rules of the game. I wish a more civilized set of rules could have won the day, but the Republican campaign machine since the Clinton era has set the tone. Now, it's time to play ball! And, PR, doing a search for birthers, the only posts I found from you raise no such condemnation of the issue, so my guess is that you too are nervous about these attacks on your candidate and are applying a double standard.
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And, Wolfpack, I still stand by my comments about Chappaquidik, but given the fact that the righties continued to use it even after Kennedy died, I'm simply recognizing that the right has established the rules of the game. I wish a more civilized set of rules could have won the day, but the Republican campaign machine since the Clinton era has set the tone. Now, it's time to play ball!
Being that Romney is a Mormon and they don't drink alcohol, do you any proof that he ever drank any alcohol or was seen by anyone ever drinking? No, but you make a wild speculation that he might have been under the influence.
In your original link you talk about turning into another lane. If you've ever driven in a country that drives opposite to the American way, you can understand how it is not reckless but confusing and counter intuitive to the way we learned to drive. Since they put up barriers, it is likely not the first time it happened, lessening his culpability, if there was any to begin with .

Oh and the inflammatory nature of the Daily Kos headline "Romney's Cult" which is a not so veiled slap at the accusation of Mormonism being a cult....Nice choice of words...Flip it around and if the Democratic nominee was a Mormon ( not likely) and a right leaning site posted this, you'd be calling for a special prosecutor....
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Being that Romney is a Mormon and they don't drink alcohol, do you any proof that he ever drank any alcohol or was seen by anyone ever drinking? No, but you make a wild speculation that he might have been under the influence.
In your original link you talk about recklessly turning into another lane. If you've ever driven in a country that drives opposite to the American way, you can understand how it is not reckless but confusing and counter intuitive to the way we learned to drive.
I don't know if Romney was drunk, and I'm not suggesting that; but I am suggesting that he had no basis for claiming the person in the other car was drunk and his version of events contains at least one blatant lie, the name of the other driver. I think it's at least as worthy an issue as Obama's place of birth or religion. Why did Romney lie?

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I don't know if Romney was drunk, and I'm not suggesting that;
So when you said "After all, do we want a drunken murderer as president?" you weren't suggesting he was drunk. Got'cha.

"When people judge the now deceased Kennedy for the accident at Chappaquidik, they are ignorant of the facts or clinging to desperate theories by hateful people." - Patters

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So when you said "After all, do we want a drunken murderer as president?" you weren't suggesting he was drunk. Got'cha.

"When people judge the now deceased Kennedy for the accident at Chappaquidik, they are ignorant of the facts or clinging to desperate theories by hateful people." - Patters
The comment about drunks was for Harry Boy. As far as Chappy goes, that has been thoroughly vetted, though we may have different opinions. The murder that Romney may have caused has not been thoroughly vetted. Neither you nor I have all the facts. Let's get them. Romney seems to have a lot to hide. Even the Republican Governor of Alabama is calling on Romney to release his old tax returns. Let's get the truth out about Romney. Hopefully he's not a tax-cheating murderer who prefers creating jobs in China than in the US.
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