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Old 05-31-2012, 06:35 AM   #1
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I've noticed that somehow the local savants have missed the fact that the Republican party, in a coordinated multi-state action, have been busy suppressing the vote in whatever way they can imagine that favors their party...

Here's Rolling Stone on the Florida effort, kicking voters off the rolls... have patience, they dwell a bit on the theft of the 2000 election before moving on to the 2012 effort...

Florida GOP Takes Voter Suppression to a Brazen New Extreme | Ari Berman | Politics News | Rolling Stone

As usual, it's thousands of purged voters despite only 31 actual voter fraud complaints....

The pilot program worked so well in Florida in the past, that the pubbies have gone nationwide...

Voter ID Laws: Obama Could Be Hurt By New Registration Curbs

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Voting laws passed by Republican-led legislatures in a dozen states during the past year have sharply restricted voter-registration drives that typically target young, low-income, African-American and Hispanic voters - groups that have backed the Democratic president by wide margins.

A further 16 states are considering bills that would end voter registration on election days, impose a range of limits on groups that register voters and make it more difficult for people to sign up, according to the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School.
The problem is obvious: The Republican party has a problem with black voters, latino voters, women voters... just about demographic other than white males.

Since as a share of the voting population, whites are declining, the solution appears to be not to let others vote.

That leaves them with only the gender problem to deal with, I suppose. Oh yeah, and gays. And people who think it's okay to be gay.

The excuse of "voter fraud" -- despite the clear lack of an actual problem of voter fraud -- is being used to keep thousands of people away from the polls. Rules are being changed in various ways: new curbs on when polls are open, curbs on early voting, curbs on anything that makes voting or registration easier if you're less well-to-do (think about the working man or woman looking at early voting on a day off vs. taking off a day to vote.) Close the polls earlier, make early voting harder, don't have same-day registration -- they're all intended to suppress the vote.

Of course, in case we wonder about the sincerity of curbing "voter fraud," we have once clear instance of the phenomenon upon which to meditate...

Indiana secretary of state convicted of voter fraud - latimes.com

Well, that doesn't really establish much does it? Except the Secretary of State runs the show, in terms of who can vote and by what rules. He was active -- while committing voter fraud -- in using voter fraud as an excuse to suppress voting in his state.

What we have in 2012 is a concerted effort to discourage voting by the electorate, using this same excuse. It's a clear attack on our democracy, led by cynical hacks who just want to win at any cost.

The new rules:

- Corporations are people
- Money has freedom of speech
- Voting is a selective privilege not a right

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Old 05-31-2012, 10:03 AM   #2
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Poll: 70% back voter ID laws


A majority of Democrats, independents and Republicans support voter ID laws. | AP Photo
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By TIM MAK | 4/18/12 1:14 PM EDT Updated: 4/18/12 3:20 PM EDT

The vast majority of Americans believe that voter ID laws are necesssary to stop fraud, according to a new survey released Wednesday.

Indeed, 70 percent of Americans say they support voter identification measures “to stop illegal voting,” reports Fox News. Only 26 percent said such laws are “unnecessary and discourage legal voting.”


A majority of Democrats (52 percent), independents (72 percent) and Republicans (87 percent) supported voter ID laws as necessary.



Poll: 70% back voter ID laws - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com



73% Think Photo ID Requirement Before Voting Does Not Discriminate
73% Think Photo ID Requirement Before Voting Does Not Discriminate - Rasmussen Reports™
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So you're saying we should base policy decisions based on popular opinion?

Hello, single payer!
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The power does not lie with who casts the votes, but with who counts the votes..
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The power does not lie with who casts the votes, but with who counts the votes..
And that's the problem I have with many of the voting machines versus paper ballots...It has too much potential for fraud/hacking or shenanigans.
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And that's the problem I have with many of the voting machines versus paper ballots...It has too much potential for fraud/hacking or shenanigans.
My problem is one step further, Diebold used to be the main player in this game and were closely aligned with the Republican Party.. that has been sold off to another company, who also has close ties to the Republican Party..

Now known as Premier Election Systems.. previously the CEO was a major contributor to George Bush, and they were accused of having a monopoly on these machines..

Lot of dirty secrets with Diebold now Premier..
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Poll: 70% back voter ID laws


A majority of Democrats, independents and Republicans support voter ID laws. | AP Photo
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By TIM MAK | 4/18/12 1:14 PM EDT Updated: 4/18/12 3:20 PM EDT

The vast majority of Americans believe that voter ID laws are necesssary to stop fraud, according to a new survey released Wednesday.

Indeed, 70 percent of Americans say they support voter identification measures “to stop illegal voting,” reports Fox News. Only 26 percent said such laws are “unnecessary and discourage legal voting.”


A majority of Democrats (52 percent), independents (72 percent) and Republicans (87 percent) supported voter ID laws as necessary.



Poll: 70% back voter ID laws - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com



73% Think Photo ID Requirement Before Voting Does Not Discriminate
73% Think Photo ID Requirement Before Voting Does Not Discriminate - Rasmussen Reports™



Dems react to Voter ID laws that ensure people don't vote illegally live vampires getting thrown into a pool of holy warter on a cloudless day.
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Dems react to Voter ID laws that ensure people don't vote illegally live vampires getting thrown into a pool of holy warter on a cloudless day.
Holy warter???

Your comments are completely unintelligible...
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Holy warter???

Your comments are completely unintelligible...
Yeah, you know....warthers - they hang around water and eat live vampires.

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Your comments are completely unintelligible...

Ever see a vampire movie?
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