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Old 05-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #11
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agree with chico here


first, paid vacation is part of a benefits package that companies offer.

second, companies pay for unused vacation time when someone leaves a company.

third, vacation time gets carried over for many companies.

in general, I think a vaction time is silly....if you want to take a vacation, take a vacation

by PR's logic, I get to laugh at all the stupid people in the world who have jobs that actually make them show up every day
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If you take a job with a company that doesn't offer paid vacation time, then you should save accordingly if you hope to take one. I think it'd be nice to have paid vacations for everyone, but to mandate them isn't something I'd support. Some companies simply can't afford to offer them. They can't afford to pay people to not work.
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If you take a job with a company that doesn't offer paid vacation time, then you should save accordingly if you hope to take one. I think it'd be nice to have paid vacations for everyone, but to mandate them isn't something I'd support. Some companies simply can't afford to offer them. They can't afford to pay people to not work.

That's pretty funny.....Then why can all these other country's companies afford it then?

Most on that list have higher tax rates to boot, so why can they afford it but we can't afford it here in the USA?

Every company should offer some paid vacation, after all its the workers that make the products or sell them, why shouldn't they have paid vacation? Its the right thing to do....

The government shouldn't have to make a law for companies to do this, they should do it on their own already, its just like min wage, you shouldn't have to make laws to tell people to do the right thing......

So I don't know what's worse, the fact that companies are always trying to rip off their workers, or the fact that we have to make laws to protect people so that companies do the right thing......
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Every company should offer some paid vacation, after all its the workers that make the products or sell them, why shouldn't they have paid vacation? Its the right thing to do....
What if your company is barely making it in a bad economy? Maybe some kind a profit sharing plan would be the most fair. The thing is employee burn out can cause unproductively, so time off is important. Whether a company can afford to pay it all the time is another story.
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That's pretty funny.....Then why can all these other country's companies afford it then?

Most on that list have higher tax rates to boot, so why can they afford it but we can't afford it here in the USA?

Every company should offer some paid vacation, after all its the workers that make the products or sell them, why shouldn't they have paid vacation? Its the right thing to do....

The government shouldn't have to make a law for companies to do this, they should do it on their own already, its just like min wage, you shouldn't have to make laws to tell people to do the right thing......

So I don't know what's worse, the fact that companies are always trying to rip off their workers, or the fact that we have to make laws to protect people so that companies do the right thing......
Have you been paying attention to what's going on in "all these other countries"? By the quality of your posts, I wouldn't expect so.

Tell you what, when you start, own, or operate your own company, you go right ahead and provide all the "paid fors" you want. Just don't go complaining about how expensive rebuilding your stone wall is, cuz the owner of the masonry company has to provide all his employees with 2, 4, or 6 weeks paid vacation. Don't complain when your landscaper ups his bill cuz he not only has to pay his labor to stay home a few weeks a year, when his revenues are seasonal. Most semi-intelligent people with a grains worth of real world experience already know that the majority of employers do provide paid vacations. Likely on top of holidays, sick days, personal days, etc. A job isn't a right. If you don't like your sack of **** employer, or your dead end job, better yourself and find a new one.
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Have you been paying attention to what's going on in "all these other countries"? By the quality of your posts, I wouldn't expect so.

Tell you what, when you start, own, or operate your own company, you go right ahead and provide all the "paid fors" you want. Just don't go complaining about how expensive rebuilding your stone wall is, cuz the owner of the masonry company has to provide all his employees with 2, 4, or 6 weeks paid vacation. Don't complain when your landscaper ups his bill cuz he not only has to pay his labor to stay home a few weeks a year, when his revenues are seasonal. Most semi-intelligent people with a grains worth of real world experience already know that the majority of employers do provide paid vacations. Likely on top of holidays, sick days, personal days, etc. A job isn't a right. If you don't like your sack of **** employer, or your dead end job, better yourself and find a new one.


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Have you been paying attention to what's going on in "all these other countries"? By the quality of your posts, I wouldn't expect so.

That's pretty funny, so Germany is in bad shape? Last time I checked they were doing just fine.....I guess they don't count do they RW???

Damn even china is doing paid vacation, I guess they are in bad shape too uh? Do they not count either???

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Tell you what, when you start, own, or operate your own company, you go right ahead and provide all the "paid fors" you want. Just don't go complaining about how expensive rebuilding your stone wall is, cuz the owner of the masonry company has to provide all his employees with 2, 4, or 6 weeks paid vacation. Don't complain when your landscaper ups his bill cuz he not only has to pay his labor to stay home a few weeks a year, when his revenues are seasonal. Most semi-intelligent people with a grains worth of real world experience already know that the majority of employers do provide paid vacations. Likely on top of holidays, sick days, personal days, etc. A job isn't a right. If you don't like your sack of **** employer, or your dead end job, better yourself and find a new one.
Playing the worlds smallest violin for you and others...... BTW they said the same thing about slavery and min wage when they happened, "Oh there is no way we can make it, will go bankrupt!" BULL****!!!!

Excuse are like *******s, everyone has one, what's yours?
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Maybe I missed the point of PR's thread. Was this topic about how Americans should take their vacation days they have or that the government should mandate companies to provide them?

If it is the former, then yes, as I said, people should take the time off they are provided as a benefit of employment. Time away from your job is good for the soul and in my opinion keeps you more productive while you are working.

If it is the latter, I just don't see how you could (or should) force a private business owner to offer paid vacation. Vacation isn't a right, like a safe workplace, free from dangers and abuse. If you don't like your employers vaca policy, do what I did....get a new job.

No biggie.

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Playing the worlds smallest violin for you and others...... BTW they said the same thing about slavery and min wage when they happened, "Oh there is no way we can make it, will go bankrupt!" BULL****!!!!

Excuse are like *******s, everyone has one, what's yours?
How old are you? I get the impression you're pretty young and think you're entitled to whatever comforts you think an employer should give you. Great jobs with benefits aren't just out there for everyone in today's economy and you certainly can't assume if a company doesn't offer great packages it's because they're just greedy employers. Am I wrong?

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Actually on one right now. I forget, who approves & who is envious?
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How old are you? I get the impression you're pretty young and think you're entitled to whatever comforts you think an employer should give you. Great jobs with benefits aren't just out there for everyone in today's economy and you certainly can't assume if a company doesn't offer great packages it's because they just greedy employers. Am I wrong?

My age has nothing to do with this thread,


So I ask again, if Germany and China can offer paid days off why can't the USA?

Edit: I find it funny, when someone disagrees with some of you, you resort to attacking them, instead of answering their question......I wonder why??? lmfao This thread has nothing to do with me, my age or my background. It doesn't matter if i'm young or old, if I have started a bizz or not.

This is what's wrong with these forums, you attack the posters instead of debating them....
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