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Old 05-17-2012, 07:23 AM   #1
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We all Hate them, they are no good rotten bastards, Liberals especially despise them.

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yes......because all the things that are for our own good need to be done behind closed doors

this happens when proposals can not stand on the merit of its value
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:49 AM   #3
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I posted on this 3 years ago and linked this story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_258285.html
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The memo, which according to a knowledgeable health care lobbyist was prepared by a person directly involved in the negotiations, lists exactly what the White House gave up, and what it got in return.

It says the White House agreed to oppose any congressional efforts to use the government's leverage to bargain for lower drug prices or import drugs from Canada -- and also agreed not to pursue Medicare rebates or shift some drugs from Medicare Part B to Medicare Part D, which would cost Big Pharma billions in reduced reimbursements.

In exchange, the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers Association (PhRMA) agreed to cut $80 billion in projected costs to taxpayers and senior citizens over ten years. Or, as the memo says: "Commitment of up to $80 billion, but not more than $80 billion."


That entire backroom deal stuff was doomed to failure ... serious act of desperation that makes less sense now than it did then. An open process may have produced better results ... who knows?
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Drug companies have saved a lot of lives...

Man, you've got a lot of hate in you.
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Drug companies have saved a lot of lives...

Man, you've got a lot of hate in you.
and you're blind to the real issue trying to be communicated
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and you're blind to the real issue trying to be communicated
No, I'm not, but it's not surprising that you're confused.

"trying" -- good word choice, though. I can't help it that the OP muddles up a legitimate issue with his own bile.
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No, I'm not, but it's not surprising that you're confused.

"trying" -- good word choice, though. I can't help it that the OP muddles up a legitimate issue with his own bile.
You have no foundation other than to attack the source you're hollow in thought and hateful in bitterness towards other opinion. How about posting some real opinion from time to time that leaves out the OP.
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No, I'm not, but it's not surprising that you're confused.

"trying" -- good word choice, though. I can't help it that the OP muddles up a legitimate issue with his own bile.
this is the limit of your mental capacity....to tell others that they are confused all while having no clue of your own......making blind excuses both direct and indirect for the president

unable to communicate the merits of the current situation, you blame the confusion of others
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Does anyone understand hearsay????.. a unnamed lobbyist guy says that another guy prepared a memo who was directly involved in the negotiations says what the White House gave up..

No names, and no corraboration of the story..

It may or not be true, this passage means nothing..

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Does anyone understand hearsay????.. a unnamed lobbyist guy says that another guy prepared a memo who was directly involved in the negotiations says what the White House gave up..

No names, and no corraboration of the story..

It may or not be true, this passage means nothing..
LOL......but you have no porblems supposing Zimmerman's guilt without anything to back it up

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