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Old 05-15-2012, 06:26 AM   #1
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In my opinion, casino's don't belong in nice towns. And Foxboro is a very nice town...so good for them they voted it down.

As if Mr Kraft needs more money anyway.

Maybe now we'll get one in my town. We vote June 9th.
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In my opinion, casino's don't belong in nice towns. And Foxboro is a very nice town...so good for them they voted it down.

As if Mr Kraft needs more money anyway.

Maybe now we'll get one in my town. We vote June 9th.
People in Foxboro can't be capitalists? Just sayin PR
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In my opinion, casino's don't belong in nice towns. And Foxboro is a very nice town...so good for them they voted it down.

As if Mr Kraft needs more money anyway.
Don't casinos create jobs? Aren't people like Mr. Kraft the look-to small business-creating saviors of the middle class? Or should he, like all the other filthy rich people, simply put his money safely in some off-shore account and let the middle class figure out why they can't find work anymore?
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Mo money = mo problems

At first, I wanted casinos everywhere. Tax revenue for the state without mandatory taxation. But as I've done more thinking on the topic... whenever you have a lot of money floating around you attract unsavory folks -- mostly at the top (lobbyists, consultants, etc.)
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From an infrastructure standpoint, voting down a Casino was the right thing. Route 1 can't handle the traffic it gets now. Mornings its a parking lot at multiple spots on my way to work and anyone who goes to games at Gillette knows what it looks like on gameday.

On the other hand, I do think there is a stigma placed on casinos that they somehow would transform any area they come to into 1960s Vegas; that they somehow bring in tons of undesirable ancillary types; drugs, prostitutes etc etc etc. The casinos I have been to (AZ, Vegas, Foxwoods etc) seem to show a different reality than what it may have been years ago.

I think Wynn and Kraft would have been able to make "sweet music" with a casino, its just that Foxboro, in this viewers opinion, is lacking the infrastructure to handle increased traffic while maintaining its ability to function as a town.

I do always get a chuckle when my wife and I are driving through Foxboro and see all the signs in the front yards with the campaign slogan from the opposition to it; "casiNO".

There is one I love specifically...someone who lives up on the hill on Beach St made their own sign in their garage to show their disapproval. Huge plywood sign painted with the slogan....only they went with "cosinNO"

I'm all for personal opinions on any matter, but when you oppose something, and can't spell it correctly, makes me wonder if you had the acumen to weigh the pros and cons of what you are railing against
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It's a MEH for me ... could care less either way.
If Mass wants a casino I would say it belongs in Boston somewhere but again could care less.
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no......I don't feel bad at all........maybe kraft should try to build a casino where he lives
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On the other hand, I do think there is a stigma placed on casinos that they somehow would transform any area they come to into 1960s Vegas; that they somehow bring in tons of undesirable ancillary types; drugs, prostitutes etc etc etc. The casinos I have been to (AZ, Vegas, Foxwoods etc) seem to show a different reality than what it may have been years ago.
I think that's an old-wive's tale. When I lived in Indiana they got river boat casinos - on Lake Michigan. 4 of them - all in depressed areas. Gary, Hammond and East Chicago. Within a few years there were nice hotels, good upper scale restaurants, a few small businesses and the surrounding roads and expressways were absolutely transformed. If there were drugs there, or prostitutes, I'd never noticed. Both of those things always existed in those particular areas and, if anything, I say that due to the high traffic, increased police presence and better lighting they decreased rather than increased. Plus there were thousands of jobs added. Maybe tens of thousands, all told.

I've been to the casino in Charlestown, WV and it seems to be the same story. Rather poor farming community - and now there's several miles worth of nice hotels, restaurants, strip malls, gas stations, fast food places, etc. that weren't there before.

Same thing in Delaware.
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I think that's an old-wive's tale. When I lived in Indiana they got river boat casinos - on Lake Michigan. 4 of them - all in depressed areas. Gary, Hammond and East Chicago. Within a few years there were nice hotels, good upper scale restaurants, a few small businesses and the surrounding roads and expressways were absolutely transformed. If there were drugs there, or prostitutes, I'd never noticed. Both of those things always existed in those particular areas and, if anything, I say that due to the high traffic, increased police presence and better lighting they decreased rather than increased. Plus there were thousands of jobs added. Maybe tens of thousands, all told.

I've been to the casino in Charlestown, WV and it seems to be the same story. Rather poor farming community - and now there's several miles worth of nice hotels, restaurants, strip malls, gas stations, fast food places, etc. that weren't there before.

Same thing in Delaware.
I am agreeing with you Mrs (that was my point - that casinos DON'T bring those things with them).

Nevertheless this topic has been covered quite a bit up here (news both tv and internet) and you would be surprised how many people have the "it will bring drugs and hookers" as their main gripe.

Traffic, losing the "small town feel", too busy, not a favorable deal for the town. Those are all points I could at least say "ya, I see the point to your objection".

"Drugs and Hookers"....borders on hyperbole.
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I think that's an old-wive's tale. When I lived in Indiana they got river boat casinos - on Lake Michigan. 4 of them - all in depressed areas. Gary, Hammond and East Chicago. Within a few years there were nice hotels, good upper scale restaurants, a few small businesses and the surrounding roads and expressways were absolutely transformed. If there were drugs there, or prostitutes, I'd never noticed. Both of those things always existed in those particular areas and, if anything, I say that due to the high traffic, increased police presence and better lighting they decreased rather than increased. Plus there were thousands of jobs added. Maybe tens of thousands, all told.

I've been to the casino in Charlestown, WV and it seems to be the same story. Rather poor farming community - and now there's several miles worth of nice hotels, restaurants, strip malls, gas stations, fast food places, etc. that weren't there before.

Same thing in Delaware.
in that case, it sounds to me like he needs to build it in brockton. or central falls.
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