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The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
Unbelieveable how obvious it is that people are claming disability because their unemployment benefits ran out.
Opinions?
Red line = Unemployment Benefits
Blue line = New disability claims
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Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
Well you need to get the unemployment rate down somehow for political reasons...
When you record sucks try to change the numbers to fool enough people to get reelected.
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Unemployment Rate with 10% Fraud
10% of 27.5 million is 2,750,000.
The civilian labor force would rise to 157,145,000 from 154,395,000
The number of unemployed would rise to 15,508,000 from 12,758,000
The resultant unemployment rate would be 15508/157145 = 9.9%
Is there anyone who thinks disability fraud is less than 10%? If not, then the unemployment rate would be at least 9.9% assuming those in fraudulent claims started looking for work.
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Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
That number seems very high. According to politifact.com, there are around 15,000,000 people who collect SSI or SSDI (and you have to figure that most of those people are mentally retarded, severely mentally ill, or have true physical limitations). In addition, wouldn't those most likely be the people who are first to lose their jobs in a bad economy? They are the most difficult to employ, so when their unemployment insurance runs out, I assume many of them turn to disability because they have no alternative.
Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
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Originally Posted by Patters
That number seems very high. According to politifact.com, there are around 15,000,000 people who collect SSI or SSDI (and you have to figure that most of those people are mentally retarded, severely mentally ill, or have true physical limitations). In addition, wouldn't those most likely be the people who are first to lose their jobs in a bad economy? They are the most difficult to employ, so when their unemployment insurance runs out, I assume many of them turn to disability because they have no alternative.
See the links in post #2
The point of the article is that since 2010 2.2 million people whose unemployment insurance ran out became disabled...
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"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
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Originally Posted by patsfan13
See the links in post #2
The point of the article is that since 2010 2.2 million people whose unemployment insurance ran out became disabled...
I think many of those people were probably disabled and working. They are the ones who get fired first. I have clients with PTSD who managed to hold jobs in car washes or supermarkets, but when the economy declined they lost their jobs. They went out and job hunted and are still job hunting. A client of mine recently asked me, "Would you be disappointed in me if I applied for disability?" I said, "No," because I knew he was disabled (from trauma) and was having a really hard time finding work. He wants to work, but given his CORI (criminal record), his lack of resume, and his limited social skills, he has only been able to get occasional work. I told him to get disability, if he's eligible, and use that time to go back to school and learn a trade. I don't think 2.2 million people became disabled (some certainly did legitimately, others play the system, and others were disabled and working), most of them were disabled all along. Most people really truly want to work because it pays far better than SSI or even SSDI (which is actually very hard to get).
Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
What a joke. Deadbeat USA.
I told you guys that over the years I've taken notice at how many young people walk into my office looking for apartments, and list their disability checks under income.
I honestly think we need to go broke, in order to adequately fix our problems.
I said in a post a long time ago, that one of things I would do, were I in charge, is issue an order to recertify all disability claims.
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Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
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What a joke. Deadbeat USA.
I told you guys that over the years I've taken notice at how many young people walk into my office looking for apartments, and list their disability checks under income.
I honestly think we need to go broke, in order to adequately fix our problems.
I said in a post a long time ago, that one of things I would do, were I in charge, is issue an order to recertify all disability claims.
I have the impression that you and your family profiteer off those you complain about. It's not as easy as you think to get Disability. To do so, someone needs a legitimate disability or neds to find a corrupt doctor and therapist, and quite possibly a corrupt lawyer, too. While those people exist, it's not all that common for a doctor or therapist to risk their license in that way. Surely, a handful of the people who go to you are ripping off the system, but others have illnesses you may not be aware of. Not all illnesses are that readily apparent. There are people in group homes who present as quite okay, but inside they are actually severely retarded (can't read or write) or under stress react in extremely inappropriate ways. You're not a doctor or a therapist, so your understanding and knowledge of the people coming to you is limited. But, hey, landlords in slums are not generally known for their sensitivity.
Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
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Originally Posted by Patters
I have the impression that you and your family profiteer off those you complain about. It's not as easy as you think to get Disability. To do so, someone needs a legitimate disability or neds to find a corrupt doctor and therapist, and quite possibly a corrupt lawyer, too. While those people exist, it's not all that common for a doctor or therapist to risk their license in that way. Surely, a handful of the people who go to you are ripping off the system, but others have illnesses you may not be aware of. Not all illnesses are that readily apparent. There are people in group homes who present as quite okay, but inside they are actually severely retarded (can't read or write) or under stress react in extremely inappropriate ways. You're not a doctor or a therapist, so your understanding and knowledge of the people coming to you is limited. But, hey, landlords in slums are not generally known for their sensitivity.
Profiteer....
What I love about your posts Frauders, is that the more of them you make, the more and more other posters see you for what you truly are.
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Re: The Rise in Disability (fraud) Claims is Not a Coincidence
Post 1 & 2 both put forth a graph and a set of facts, with no qualification as to where they are from.. for all we know they could be from Gateway Pundit or the Dead Breitbarts or part of a series of charts?????
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