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Just like a house if you have a weak foundation and a very weak 2nd storey, your 3rd floor is gonna collapse on itself, its just a matter of time.
The issue most have is Government involvement dealing with class levels, well on the other side of the coin is the businesses of this country and the problem most of them have with being ,cheap,selfish,self-centered.
We wouldn't need welfare if businesses paid a fair wage
We wouldn't need SSDI,SSI,SS if businesses paid a fair wage
We wouldn't need food stamps if businesses paid a fair wage
We are in this mess because of businesses and the people that run them, you don't like paying high taxes? Pay your employees more so they don't need handouts.....its really a simple problem, caused by the rich.
We wouldn't need min wage, if businesses would pay a fair wage
We wouldn't need regulations if businesses wouldn't act to evil and greedy
Safety Net's are only around because of the failure of our businesses, if you want smaller Government stop being so damn selfish and greedy, pay a fair wage and watch all the people get off of welfare....
Everyone makes its sound like the poor enjoy being poor because its easy, most people I know want a good life and want to work for it, very few people have I met that were just lazy and didn't care, you can find a few examples but they're not the rule.
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.
"Plato"
Edit: I agree with Patters we should we re-do the system and make it a workforce thing, were if you need help you have to work for it and you'll get training and a wage on top of that. It might cost more in the short term but it will have a great long term effect.
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- More people than we like to admit are cognitively impaired or otherwise disabled and have no idea or cannot move on.
- More people than we like to admit really do not have the money to even take the bus and job hunt on a regular basis, plus poor people tend to live in areas where jobs are few and far between.
- Most poor people work close-to-minimum wage jobs that often don't guarantee regular hours. They are often very tired from these jobs and very discouraged.
- Middle class people tend to take for granted the advantages of culture, race, family background, etc. that contributed to their ability to succeed.
- Poor people tend to be discriminated against in our legal system so are more likely to have CORIs (and not the resources to even seal them), which makes it even more difficult for them to find work.
- Many poor people have physical and social limitations that make add to the difficulty of them getting ahead. If you're exceptionally short, tall, unattractive, etc., you sometimes live with insecurities that are hard to overcome.
- That said, there are people who play the system, hire corrupt lawyers, etc., and we need to do something about them.
The reality is that most people are not exceptional and do not have the skills to leave the class they were born into.
I think we need to replace welfare with workfare, even though it will cost the taxpayers significantly more to provide wages, job training, facilities, daycare, and basic benefits. I think everyone should work (except for the small number who need to be institutionalized).
You won't believe this I AGREE WITH YOU.
Poor people should be trained to work to support themselves, many people hate Wal Mart & McDonalds but how many people nationwide do these two companys employ, the people that do work for them are supporting themselves they don't depend on the Taxpayer & the Government to feed them and pay their rent, everybody goes to College today, College Grads don't want to work in Wal Mart or be a cashier in a supermarket, train the welfare people, get them off welfare and while they are at it GET RID OF THE CAREER WELFARE LEECHES AND WELFARE DRUNKS.
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Just like a house if you have a weak foundation and a very weak 2nd storey, your 3rd floor is gonna collapse on itself, its just a matter of time.
The issue most have is Government involvement dealing with class levels, well on the other side of the coin is the businesses of this country and the problem most of them have with being ,cheap,selfish,self-centered.
We wouldn't need welfare if businesses paid a fair wage
We wouldn't need SSDI,SSI,SS if businesses paid a fair wage
We wouldn't need food stamps if businesses paid a fair wage
We are in this mess because of businesses and the people that run them, you don't like paying high taxes? Pay your employees more so they don't need handouts.....its really a simple problem, caused by the rich.
We wouldn't need min wage, if businesses would pay a fair wage
We wouldn't need regulations if businesses wouldn't act to evil and greedy
Safety Net's are only around because of the failure of our businesses, if you want smaller Government stop being so damn selfish and greedy, pay a fair wage and watch all the people get off of welfare....
Everyone makes its sound like the poor enjoy being poor because its easy, most people I know want a good life and want to work for it, very few people have I met that were just lazy and didn't care, you can find a few examples but they're not the rule.
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.
"Plato"
Edit: I agree with Patters we should we re-do the system and make it a workforce thing, were if you need help you have to work for it and you'll get training and a wage on top of that. It might cost more in the short term but it will have a great long term effect.
A fair wage would be around 30k-35k to pay for kids,house,retirement,healthcare and others things.
Imagine, a world without welfare!!! How nice it would be!
Edit: We could cut all welfare programs and SS,FS and other things. Just need companies to pay a fair wage, in return your taxes would go down, the less you pay the more taxes you pay thus increasing the size of government to cover the cost of helping people out so they can afford food and healthcare.
The best way to slim the government is to pay people a fair wage, pay people more and government less.....its a novel idea!
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Warren G. Harding
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Last edited by Ilikehappyppl; 05-10-2012 at 02:24 PM..
All your posts sound like a bitter poor person... it's hilarious... at least you're consistent.
Actually he sounds like I did at age 24, before I entered the real working world.
Until then I had summer jobs, part-time jobs, 3 years in the Army, and 2 more back to college working part-time. Not a good background to see how the world really works.
The way to help the poor and midldle class the most is with a booming economy. That means lower taxes, less (not eliminate all) regulations, cut back on the growth of government. The bigger the economy the more competition for workers, the more competition for workers,the higher the wages and benefits.
I'm not on the side of the "rich", I just know that taxing them more does not do the poor and middle any good.
I'm not on the side of the "rich", I just know that taxing them more does not do the poor and middle any good.
Taxing them less does not do much good either, as evidenced by the past 11 years... keep waiting for it to trickle down, just like Ronnie Reagan promised.
__________________ "Being the best doesn't mean you always win. It just means you win more than anyone else".. tweet from Kurt Warner to Tom Brady.
Poor people should be trained to work to support themselves, many people hate Wal Mart & McDonalds but how many people nationwide do these two companys employ, the people that do work for them are supporting themselves they don't depend on the Taxpayer & the Government to feed them and pay their rent,
Not really........
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Reliance by Wal-Mart workers on public assistance programs in California comes at a cost to the taxpayers of an estimated $86 million annually; this is comprised of $32 million in health related expenses and $54 million in other assistance.
The families of Wal-Mart employees in California utilize an estimated 40 percent more in taxpayer-funded health care than the average for families of all large retail employees.
The families of Wal-Mart employees use an estimated 38 percent more in other (non-health care) public assistance programs (such as food stamps, Earned Income Tax Credit, subsidized school lunches, and subsidized housing) than the average for families of all large retail employees.
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