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Old 05-10-2012, 10:07 AM   #11
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He did? Examples, please.

Lugar had a 77 percent lifetime score from the ACU.
The example is the other 23%
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:14 AM   #12
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"Ideology cannot be a substitute for a determination to think for yourself, for a willingness to study an issue objectively, and for the fortitude to sometimes disagree with your party or even your constituents," he said."

Lugar's parting words: Part defense, part warning - CNN.com

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I thought we all agreed, left and right, that we needed term limits. So... wasn't it time for him to go?

And this guy didn't even have a residence in the state he represented. That in and of itself is a disassociation the voters can't abide.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:42 AM   #13
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Term Limits are badly needed to help keep these Politician Pigs in line both Dem & Repub.

Uncle Teddy thought he owned America.
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You people are comical. Absolutely comical. I don't even know the name of the person who beat him. All I know is it's the treasuruer (i think), and a male. I learned that yesterday in passing. I have no clue if the dude is a loon, legit, or a single position he holds. I've never seen a picture of him. I just think it's a good thing when a lifer gets tossed. Look at where we are today. These lifers need to go. I've long believed in term limits, and when a 40 year lifer gets ousted, I'm generally pleased. Thank you for your service, and enjoy the real world.

Politics should not be a life long career. Worse is when a single seat becomes a career job. We constantly complain about business as usual in DC, how corrupt the system is, or how useless the people in office are. Yet, when a dinosaur who's served 40 years, and is 80 gets tossed, you frauds come in here and say "wow, there goes a good one" or "those people are bat **** crazy". Says the people who voted in Ted Kennedy and Rep Brothel for decades on end.
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I have no problem with term limits, and I have no problem with veteran pols getting displaced.

I don't see it as a positive when said replacement is markedly diminished from the prior seat holder. That's really all there is to it.

And if you want to see dysfunctional government, vote for people like Mike Lee and Richard Mourdock.
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He did? Examples, please.

Lugar had a 77 percent lifetime score from the ACU.

As a quick example he took over 150K in farm subsidies, even though he really lived in the metro DC area.

He voted for the bailouts for the bankers and UAW.
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Here are the longest serving members currently in office. I hope they all get tossed. No one should be in congress, or the senate, for 30, 40, and even 50 years! NO ONE!!!!

List of members of the United States Congress by longevity of service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

John Dingell (H) 56 years, 149 days


Daniel Inouye (H,S) 52 years, 263 days


John Conyers (H) 47 years, 128 days


Charles B. Rangel (H) 41 years, 128 days


Bill Young (H) 41 years, 128 days



Thad Cochran (H,S) 39 years, 128 days


Pete Stark (H) 39 years, 128 days


Don Young (H) 39 years, 65 days



Patrick Leahy (S) 37 years, 128 days



Max Baucus (H,S) 37 years, 128 days



Chuck Grassley (H,S) 37 years, 128 days


Tom Harkin (H,S) 37 years, 128 days


George Miller (H) 37 years, 128 days


Henry Waxman (H) 37 years, 128 days



Orrin Hatch (R-UT) Jan 3, 1977 to present 35 years, 3 months, 21 days


Richard Lugar (R-IN) Jan 3, 1977 to present 35 years, 3 months, 21 days
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Agree. The Tea Party guy will lose, though. Unintended consequences on the part of Utahianites. Lugar was a good Senator, IMO, but his time is up...was a long time ago.




Don't know if that is correct Indiana is a relative conservative and this guy has won 2 elections with over 60% of the vote in 2010 for State Treasurer.


from his campaign website:

[quote]Richard Mourdock was elected Indiana’s State Treasurer in November 2006 and was re-elected in 2010, leading the Republican ticket with over 62% of the vote. As Treasurer, Richard has been an integral part of the state’s fiscal health. Richard’s leadership earned over $1 billion in investment income for taxpayers and successfully expanded the state’s college savings plan. At the same time, his office has returned an average of 10% of his budget back to the Treasury each year.


I like the part about not spending all his budget, we need a LOT more of that.

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I have no problem with term limits, and I have no problem with veteran pols getting displaced.

I don't see it as a positive when said replacement is markedly diminished from the prior seat holder. That's really all there is to it.

And if you want to see dysfunctional government, vote for people like Mike Lee and Richard Mourdock.
If you have a veteran, the replacement will always be "diminished" -- that's just a foolish expectation. Did you argue for Bledsoe to come back and play in the Super Bowl?

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I have no problem with term limits, and I have no problem with veteran pols getting displaced.

I don't see it as a positive when said replacement is markedly diminished from the prior seat holder. That's really all there is to it.

And if you want to see dysfunctional government, vote for people like Mike Lee and Richard Mourdock.
Right, cuz government has been so functional over the years.


Look at this list. Look at how long these people have served. It's time for many of them to go imo.

List of current United States Senators by age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are 21 senators who's been in their seat for 20+ years, and another handfull who are close to it. If we had a limit of 3 terms, which is 18 years, all these clowns would have to go. I think that would be a good thing from a general perspective.
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