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Old 05-07-2012, 10:14 AM   #41
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Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN

sidebar to respond to your response. I actually don't want to side-track into our 32875th thread on this particular topic. I'll leave it to the deniers to publish their research in journals such as Nature or Science. Oh wait, I forgot, everybody's against them...
Hmm, not seeing any articles on recent increases in gang-dying in Nature or Science either. I guess that means it's not really a scientific observation, then.
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Many years ago I lived in on the west coast of Florida. Just about every year the "red tide" would come in and kill many tons of ocean life. Even though the red tide was explained by science there were still plenty of people claiming that it had to be a man-made problem.

I am not trying to say that mankind's pollution has no effect on the environment, but just that people will believe what they want to believe even when proved wrong by science.
The red tide also happens in the NE, at first glance everyone thought it was that filmy seaweed, but it is a microscopic event...

This is the first time that I have read that it is man made, but considering the amount of crap we put into the ocean all things are possible and worthy of consideration...

The answer to pollution is dilution.. keep pumping that crap into the rivers and oceans... what could possible happen??
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The red tide also happens in the NE, at first glance everyone thought it was that filmy seaweed, but it is a microscopic event...

This is the first time that I have read that it is man made, but considering the amount of crap we put into the ocean all things are possible and worthy of consideration...

The answer to pollution is dilution.. keep pumping that crap into the rivers and oceans... what could possible happen??



I believe Hamar is saying it isn't man made, but some people choose to believe it is man made.
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I believe Hamar is saying it isn't man made, but some people choose to believe it is man made.
The reality is no one really knows...
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If you are referring to the bird/dolphin kill in Peru I would agree, as to red tides they have been around for a long time before pollution would be an issue, ie they are a natural process.
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If you are referring to the bird/dolphin kill in Peru I would agree, as to red tides they have been around for a long time before pollution would be an issue, ie they are a natural process.
And you know that how???

The jury is still out, but we do know that there has been a marked increase in the amount of nutrients discharged into the ocean.. which can influence algae blooms..
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And you know that how???

The jury is still out, but we do know that there has been a marked increase in the amount of nutrients discharged into the ocean.. which can influence algae blooms..



Data on the "marked increase" and how the base line was established to corrcts for the increased ability to find this sort of event based on satillite imagery and monitoring that didn't exist 30 years ago?
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Data on the "marked increase" and how the base line was established to corrcts for the increased ability to find this sort of event based on satillite imagery and monitoring that didn't exist 30 years ago?
You do not need a scientific study to recognize that there is more shyt and artificial nutrients flowing down stream in our rivers into the ocean.... spend some time around rivers and the ocean.
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You do not need a scientific study to recognize that there is more shyt and artificial nutrients flowing down stream in our rivers into the ocean.... spend some time around rivers and the ocean.


IOW you have no proof. thanks for clearing that up.

It is ok for us to admit that we don't know things that is the basis of science to try to understand that uncountable things we don't understand.

It is politics that demands instant gratification and claims that we understand the thing we don't understand.
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IOW you have no proof. thanks for clearing that up.

It is ok for us to admit that we don't know things that is the basis of science to try to understand that uncountable things we don't understand.

It is politics that demands instant gratification and claims that we understand the thing we don't understand.
It is called the eyeball test..

You do not need a scientific study to recognize that there is more shyt and artificial nutrients flowing down stream in our rivers into the ocean.... spend some time around rivers and the ocean.
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