Titus Pullo

do you seriously think that's the cause of all this? big government? all these disparate failures across all these sectors?

seriously?

no dude, it's much MUCH deeper than that. Literally.

the sooner you accept that reality, the better off you'll be.

PatriotsReign

Actually, it's not unless you want it to be Titus. I'm guessing you believe the cause of all this is that "growth is over". But inefficiencies started long before growth stopped.

With this specific thread topic, the "growth is over" theory is irrelevant.

Fact is, holding the price of costs constant (fuel, etc), it has always cost more to have gov't provide services than it has to give it to the private sector...again, that's a fact.

Take a look at all the various services many towns and states have given to the private sector for your proof. Airport Security, Waste manangement & toll collecting are just 3 prime examples.

Private companies would never allow people with these kinds of jobs to have lifetime health insurance or make $150k+/yr.

I don't believe anyone could successfully present an argument that big government is an efficient employer or provider of services.

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Titus Pullo

This is a little like saying the Patriots lack of a pass rush wasn't their downfall. It was a lack of good pass rushers.

Do you even know when growth's fate was sealed? How can you possibly state this above? It comes off as some chicken/egg thing. I could argue that "inefficiencies" started as soon as certain power circles (federal OR private) understood growth was unsustainable.

Not theory. And never irrelevant when the words "economic topic" are in the actual thread title. ... Ever. Sorry.

Putting the word "fact" at the very beginning and very end of your paragraph doesn't show anything. But it may make you resolute in your cause. Happy for you that way.

Please learn the difference between correlation and causation. Then reassess what "proof" means.

It depends on how you frame the equation. Are you factoring in all the inevitable corruption involved as deregulation runs rampant? That costs. Or the masses left to fend for themselves that may eventually throw a flaming ****tail through your private company's front window? More cost.

The party of exclusion has one major major problem with their privatize everything platform: Corruption and a lack of oversight is an input cost on any industrial society. Whether they like it or not. Whether they prefer to ignore it or not. ... One need look no further than what happened in Iceland recently as a prime example of that.