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Old 01-30-2012, 05:48 PM   #1
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All you guys out there who love to gripe about "PC" and silly school rules and kids being punished for nothing --- wanna do something about it?

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My Son a Senior at Madison Academy and Survivor of Cancer, being diagnosed with infant Leukemia at 2 months old, going thru nearly 5 years of chemotherapy, and mulitple tests and check ups every year since, and being not only his last year in high school, but also his last year of pediactric cancer check ups, has decided to give back to commerate his Journey and success, and has decided now is the time, to give back, his decision is to grow his hair out and donate to other children and families battling the same fight he did. However the school has dress code policies, which include a hair policy for boys, to keep hair cut off neck, over ears, and out of eyes. We approached the school board with suggestion of a compromise ammendment to this policy, of DONATION POLICY, suggesting students sign a promissary note with the school, do research on the cause, keep hair clean and well maintained, and at the required length for donation, the children cut and donate the hair, giving the school a copy of donation certificate. The school board refused. Female students can grow and donate their hair, yet boys cant not, we're asking for an ammendment to this policy, my son has now been kicked out of school, until he agrees to cut his hair, we are simply asking for compromise and to allow not only my son, but anyone wanting to donate to be allowed to do so, to allow the boys the same rights and freedoms as the girl students.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:20 PM   #2
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All you guys out there who love to gripe about "PC" and silly school rules and kids being punished for nothing --- wanna do something about it?
I think they're stupid for not letting the boys grow their hair out for a worthy cause. It would teach the kids a lesson about charity, and I think the kids would have a lot of fun growing it out and then watching everyone get it all shaved off.

Having said that, this is a private academy that can set the rules however they want. I'm not comfortable telling a private academy which I have no stake in (meaning I don't pay any tuition there) how to run their show - and I don't like someone trying to frame this as a matter of "rights and freedoms." When you attend a private anything, you are subjecting yourself to their rules.

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I have no gripe against Long Hair, I used to have it, my wife said I resembled Jesus Christ I had the goatee also.

Wolfpack is right that is a Private school if you don't want to abide by their rules go elsewhere, while I'm on it this also goes for private business they should be allowed to hire, fire, whoever they please, the same goes for Private Social Clubs.

PRIVATE MEANS PRIVATE IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEIR RULES DON'T GO THERE.

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I have to agree with Wolf.

It certainly sucks that they won't allow him to do it. It's an example of the human spirit that should be celebrated and presented to others as a worthy example to follow (kids or adults).

That being said if this academy is truly a private institution they have, and should have in my opinion, the ability to enforce things like a dress code.

The "good" thing to do would to allow it for what the gesture stands for/represents, but that just my opinion, it's their "rules"
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Obviously I'm missing something.

Where are you guys getting that this is a private school?

According to everything I've read, Madison Academy is billed as a full-time, tuition-free public charter school.

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Obviously I'm missing something.

Where are you guys getting that this is a private school?

According to everything I've read, Madison Academy is billed as a full-time, tuition-free public charter school.

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Very interesting Mrs... I have not heard of anything like this before. Do charter schools have a special designations which allow them certain provisions such as setting a dress code which includes hair? I did read through the student handbook and there was quite an extensive rules section, above and beyond seemingly "public" school rules

I'll be honest I read academy and thought private school.
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Very interesting Mrs... I have not heard of anything like this before. Do charter schools have a special designations which allow them certain provisions such as setting a dress code which includes hair?
Not to my knowledge, but I can't swear by it. I would think that as long as it identifies as a "public" school and there is no tuition that it would have to follow some sort of federal guideline.

Public school can have dress codes and the like, but I think, because sex discrimination is federally forbidden that the rules for girls and boys should be the same.

Hair length, I don't know, though.

In this instance I would think they could (and should) change the rule. Kids should be encouraged to do good things - and this is a good thing.

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I'll be honest I read academy and thought private school.
I actually went to a public high school for a year and it had the word "Academy" in it's name so it didn't even phase me when I read it.
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Obviously I'm missing something.

Where are you guys getting that this is a private school?

According to everything I've read, Madison Academy is billed as a full-time, tuition-free public charter school.
Charter schools are generally run by private entities and are allowed to set dress codes and behavior rules the same as private school. Yes they are supported by public funds, but they are still schools where you must apply to get in (or entrants are determined by lotteries), you have to follow codes of conduct, etc.

I gladly admit I was mistaken in calling it a private school but, being that nobody is forced to go to a charter school, the same logic applies.

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I just wonder what they are afraid will happen? Do they think that if a boy grows his hair long then he will magically become gay?
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Public school can have dress codes and the like, but I think, because sex discrimination is federally forbidden that the rules for girls and boys should be the same.
Public schools cannot have dress codes beyond obvious, common sense things like nothing vulgar, nothing that promotes violence, etc. Anytime some public school tries to enact some sort of dress code, you ACLU types smack them so hard they don't know what him 'em.

Charter schools, like private schools, can pretty much do whatever they want - including uniforms.

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