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After months of intense debates and protests, the Obama administration has finally decided the fate of the Keystone XL pipeline project: It’s not going to happen anytime soon.
The proposed pipeline would have moved about 700,000 barrels of oil-like bitumen from the Alberta oil sands to Texas refineries each day, and oil companies and their allies lobbied hard for it — including with an ad blitz that ran during Republican presidential debates. But, in a victory for environmental activists and parts of the president’s base, the State Department has rejected the permit for its construction (though it has left the door open for its backers to reapply).
It's not like the oil is going to lower gas/diesel prices in the USA as the oil will be refined in Texas then shipped overseas.
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It seems to me there's a possibility it's a real scam, and Obama is correct move slow on this issue for economic reasons as well as environmental ones.
Keystone XL will not bring any more oil into the United State for decades to come. Canada doesn’t have nearly enough oil to fill existing pipelines going to the United States. However, existing Canadian oil pipelines all go to the Midwest, where the only buyer for their crude is the United States. Keystone XL would divert Canadian oil from refineries in the Midwest to the Gulf Coast where it can be refined and exported. Many of these refineries are in free trade zones where oil may be exported to international buyers without paying U.S. taxes. And that is exactly what Valero, one of the largest potential buyers of Keystone XL’s oil, has told its investors it will do. The idea that Keystone XL will improve U.S. oil supply is a documented scam being played on the American people by Big Oil and its friends in Washington DC.
It seems to me there's a possibility it's a real scam, and Obama is correct move slow on this issue for economic reasons as well as environmental ones.
Keystone XL will not bring any more oil into the United State for decades to come. Canada doesn’t have nearly enough oil to fill existing pipelines going to the United States. However, existing Canadian oil pipelines all go to the Midwest, where the only buyer for their crude is the United States. Keystone XL would divert Canadian oil from refineries in the Midwest to the Gulf Coast where it can be refined and exported. Many of these refineries are in free trade zones where oil may be exported to international buyers without paying U.S. taxes. And that is exactly what Valero, one of the largest potential buyers of Keystone XL’s oil, has told its investors it will do. The idea that Keystone XL will improve U.S. oil supply is a documented scam being played on the American people by Big Oil and its friends in Washington DC.
The GOP is going to be up in arms about the Administration blocking the pipeline. There are two groups that will benefit if the pipeline is built.
1). Construction workers.
2). Big Oil.
If the thing is built it will not help the USA at all.
If a bridge/road is built construction workers get jobs and we get to use those bridges and roads after they are built. If this pipeline is built construction workers get jobs then we get nothing after that. Apart from a potential oil leak on the 2000 miles of pipeline and no tax revenue.
Yeah it only a 100k jobs for US workers and a source of energy who care after all the economy is so good and with such low unemployment.....
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Yeah it only a 100k jobs for US workers and a source of energy who care after all the economy is so good and with such low unemployment.....
There are no hard or fast numbers nor measures as to whether these are full-time jobs, long term jobs, etc. And the pipeline might still be built if rerouted around environmentally sensitive areas. In fact, in that case, it might even generate more jobs.
Besides that, we need to find out if it's true that the pipeline would actually divert oil from the United States and make it another export. I'm not saying ThinkProgress is right about that, but it's a question certainly worth look into. In fact, let's give it the same scrutiny that we gave Solyndra. If we look hard enough, I bet we'll find some politically connected fingerprints.
In 2008, TransCanada’s Presidential Permit application for Keystone XL to the State Department indicated “a peak workforce of approximately 3,500 to 4,200 construction personnel” to build the pipeline.
Jobs estimates above those listed in its application draw from a 2011 report commissioned by TransCanada that estimates 20,000 “person-years” of employment based on a non-public forecast model using undisclosed inputs provided by TransCanada.
According to TransCanada’s own data, just 11% of the construction jobs on the Keystone I pipeline in South Dakota were filled by South Dakotans–most of them for temporary, low-paying manual labor.
There are no hard or fast numbers nor measures as to whether these are full-time jobs, long term jobs, etc. And the pipeline might still be built if rerouted around environmentally sensitive areas. In fact, in that case, it might even generate more jobs.
Besides that, we need to find out if it's true that the pipeline would actually divert oil from the United States and make it another export. I'm not saying ThinkProgress is right about that, but it's a question certainly worth look into. In fact, let's give it the same scrutiny that we gave Solyndra. If we look hard enough, I bet we'll find some politically connected fingerprints.
In 2008, TransCanada’s Presidential Permit application for Keystone XL to the State Department indicated “a peak workforce of approximately 3,500 to 4,200 construction personnel” to build the pipeline.
Jobs estimates above those listed in its application draw from a 2011 report commissioned by TransCanada that estimates 20,000 “person-years” of employment based on a non-public forecast model using undisclosed inputs provided by TransCanada.
According to TransCanada’s own data, just 11% of the construction jobs on the Keystone I pipeline in South Dakota were filled by South Dakotans–most of them for temporary, low-paying manual labor.
Some of the right wing blogs talk about 130,000 jobs being created. They don't mention the "person-years" that TransCanada uses.
The bottom line is that the pipeline has more negatives than positives.
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