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Old 01-16-2012, 10:53 PM   #1
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What can I say? The accusation isn't coming from MSM or even from left-wing media - it's straight out of the Washington Times - one of the most conservative-leaning publications out there.

According to Ron Paul people and Newt Gingrich people the weekend's Catholic and Evangelical activist's meeting in Texas to choose a candidate to "get behind" resulted in "manipulation," lies and ballot-box stuffing - with the end result being skewed in favor of Rick Santorum.

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An evangelical and former aide to President George H.W. Bush said he agreed with suspicions voiced by others at the meeting of evangelical and conservative Catholic activists that organizers “manipulated” the gathering and may even have stuffed the ballot to produce an endorsement of Mr. Santorum over former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Mr. Santorum, who nearly upset Mr. Romney in the Iowa caucuses, won the first ballot ahead of Mr. Gingrich in Saturday’s Texas meeting but the margin was too slim for organizers to claim a consensus. It was not until the third ballot, taken after many people had left to catch flights back home, that Mr. Santorum won more than 70 percent of those still in attendance and claimed the endorsement.

Former White House evangelical-outreach official Doug Wead, who represented GOP presidential hopeful Texas Rep. Ron Paul at the event, said it appeared the outcome obviously was determined in advance by the choice of the people invited.

Added a Gingrich supporter, a prominent social conservative who asked not to be named, “My view is that the vote was manipulated.”

Yet another evangelical political organizer who attended the meeting said he witnessed a possible incident of ballot-box stuffing. In at least one instance, the witness said, a participant was seen writing Mr. Santorum´s name on four separate ballots and putting all four in the box.

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Old 01-17-2012, 01:07 AM   #2
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one poster here is dead certain that Romney is a lock... odd that the far Christian right wing would be going to such unethical lengths to get a leg up for ANYONE BUT the shape-shifter...
The closed-door gathering of about 150 activists at the Benham, Texas, ranch of Nancy and Paul Pressler was being closely watched as perhaps a last chance for social and religious conservatives in the party to change the direction of the nomination fight by uniting around a single alternative to Mr. Romney, whom many distrust.
But he's a lock, and it's dumb to even ask...
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one poster here is dead certain that Romney is a lock... odd that the far Christian right wing would be going to such unethical lengths to get a leg up for ANYONE BUT the shape-shifter...
The closed-door gathering of about 150 activists at the Benham, Texas, ranch of Nancy and Paul Pressler was being closely watched as perhaps a last chance for social and religious conservatives in the party to change the direction of the nomination fight by uniting around a single alternative to Mr. Romney, whom many distrust.
But he's a lock, and it's dumb to even ask...
Well then by all means, since I'm so wrong, please tell us whom you feel will win the nomination? Or feel free to make yourself look even more foolish than you did in the following exchange:

"A lot can happen in two months, especially for a mormon." - Titus Pullo, post 9, "Tea Party" thread (before Harry Boy entered the thread)

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Hey Wolfie, go peddle that rubbish over in the thread it belongs in, instead of hijacking this one.

Better yet, try to just cope... can't imagine a thread that the above wouldn't be hijacking.

But in the absence of the second sentence, just go by the first one, and get out of this thread, or contribute.

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Political organizing at a church? It's another front in the "War on Democracy" I tell ya!

Valerie Jarrett | Partisan Pulpit Speech | Church-State IRS Rules | The Daily Caller

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On Sunday President Barack Obama’s controversial aide, Valerie Jarrett, used the Ebenezer pulpit to tell the congregation that the jobs of teachers, police and firefighters “are now in jeopardy because Congress — well, let me be specific — because [of] the Republicans in Congress.”

Jarrett is a longtime aide to Obama, and worked with him in Chicago. She’s deeply unpopular among White House staff, but remains influential with the president.

Shortly after the religious service, the church hosted a voter registration drive for its mostly African-American congregation. In 2008, more than 95 percent of African-Americans voted for Obama. His 2012 campaign managers are now funding registration drives and other efforts to repeat that level of support this November. This church’s hosting of partisan statements and technically non-partisan activities threatens its tax-exempt status, according to rules posted on the IRS’ website.

“Voter education or registration activities with evidence of bias that (a) would favor one candidate over another; (b) oppose a candidate in some manner; or (c) have the effect of favoring a candidate or group of candidates, will constitute prohibited participation or intervention,” according to the IRS website.
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Political organizing at a church? It's another front in the "War on Democracy" I tell ya!

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So start another thread and gripe about it.....I'll join ya.

But not here, this has no more to do with the original thread than Wolf's remark did.

What's up with that? Are you both afraid to respond to the in-house charges of fraud and manipulation?
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Private group no official standing or input, could they raid the game of course but who cares who or what they want.
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Hey Wolfie, go peddle that rubbish over in the thread it belongs in, instead of hijacking this one.

Better yet, try to just cope... can't imagine a thread that the above wouldn't be hijacking.

But in the absence of the second sentence, just go by the first one, and get out of this thread, or contribute.

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So start another thread and gripe about it.....I'll join ya.

But not here, this has no more to do with the original thread than Wolf's remark did.

What's up with that? Are you both afraid to respond to the in-house charges of fraud and manipulation?
Churches can do whatever they please in an unofficial in-house vote. It's unethical, but nothing more than that.

Who cares really?
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