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Re: The Latest OWS Tactic is going to lead to trouble...
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Originally Posted by chicowalker
Not an ideal welcoming committee if they're legit, though
(That said, you could certainly spin it as a positive, as long as nothing goes wrong with the cops.)
Good point again...something we need to consider.
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Re: The Latest OWS Tactic is going to lead to trouble...
I find it absolutely unbelievable that there are people in this forum who think it's either ok for people to hijack a home that doesn't belong to them, or wrong for people in a nieghborhood to not want homes in their neighborhood hijacked. Unbelievable!
PS; shocka, one of our resident liberals resorted to mentioning the KKK, while tossing the Racist! attack someones way. Too bad this threads OP never once mentioned race! ahahahahah, so typical.
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Re: The Latest OWS Tactic is going to lead to trouble...
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Originally Posted by Real World
I find it absolutely unbelievable that there are people in this forum who think it's either ok for people to hijack a home that doesn't belong to them, or wrong for people in a nieghborhood to not want homes in their neighborhood hijacked. Unbelievable!
PS; shocka, one of our resident liberals resorted to mentioning the KKK, while tossing the Racist! attack someones way. Too bad this threads OP never once mentioned race! ahahahahah, so typical.
Darryl is never, ever apologetic for his "Racism" inuendo's...even when he has no basis for them at all. So I won't expect that to change. He truly believes in "his party"!
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Re: The Latest OWS Tactic is going to lead to trouble...
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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign
Now Darryl...since you know I hate racism, why would you write something so childish?
Because he is unable to write or discuss anything intelligently. He is just doing what the left always does: calling names to anyone who disagrees with them.
If you oppose OWS, you're a racist. If you don't want an unoccupied property on your street to be invaded by squatters, you're a racist. And so on.
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
As a matter of fact, the condo next to ours has been abandoned for almost a year now.
If and when someone moves in I will have no way of knowing if they bought it, rented it or commandered it, will I?
And, honestly, the way they may behave will have nothing to do with their rent/own/squat status, will it? I've had neighbors who owned their homes and were party animals, drug dealers and child molesters. I've lived along side of renters who were sweet, kind and quiet people. I've met homeless people in the ER and on the streets who belonged to both types of neighbors.
I care about how they take care of their home or apt., how they react to their neighbors and how quiet they are - I really don't give a damn how or what they pay for it.
Would I mind if they let the homeless grandpa that wanders the mall down the street from us or some temporarily homeless single mom and her children live in the place until it was being sold?
Not at all.
Your condo doesn't have an association? Wouldn't the fact that they weren't paying dues or didn't have keys to get in be a tip?
Re: The Latest OWS Tactic is going to lead to trouble...
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Not racist - but definitely classist.
Oh, and by the way, you're starting to sound like a vigilante - very much interested in inserting your own private views into a matter which concerns the bank which owns the house and the people attempting to move into it.
How is this your fight?
I can see calling the cops if you think you see someone trying to break into a home - other than that, it's really none of your business, is it?
Any violation of the law is absolutely the public's business (mine, yours, everyone's), and certainly those who would be impacted by that violation have every right to get involved.
If the owner of the house (whether it is a bank or an individual) lets people move in, that's one thing. But if the owners forbid it, the neighbors have every right to get involved.
Re: The Latest OWS Tactic is going to lead to trouble...
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
As a matter of fact, the condo next to ours has been abandoned for almost a year now.
If and when someone moves in I will have no way of knowing if they bought it, rented it or commandered it, will I?
Actually, an knowledgeable person can think of all sorts of ways to check on those things, but apparently you need some help.
Land and home ownership is a matter of public record. If a condo is bought or sold, it is publicly recorded and can be very easily found online (by intelligent people, that is). And if it is owned by the bank or in foreclosure, then chances are the people who are staying there (but happen to never use any electricity or utilities) are squatters, not legit.
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Would I mind if they let the homeless grandpa that wanders the mall down the street from us or some temporarily homeless single mom and her children live in the place until it was being sold?
Not at all.
And how would you feel if some political organization that you opposed took it over illegally? How would you feel if the Virginia Tea Party decided to illegally make that house their base of operations? Would you still have the same level of sanctimonious self righteousness, or would that be a different situation?
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Land and home ownership is a matter of public record. If a condo is bought or sold, it is publicly recorded and can be very easily found online (by intelligent people, that is). And if it is owned by the bank or in foreclosure, then chances are the people who are staying there (but happen to never use any electricity or utilities) are squatters, not legit.
Why would I do that? What possible difference could it make to me? As for knowing if my neighbors use their utilities, again, how would I know? I'd have to be actively paying attention to what they were doing and I can see no real reason for me to be doing so.
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And how would you feel if some political organization that you opposed took it over illegally? How would you feel if the Virginia Tea Party decided to illegally make that house their base of operations? Would you still have the same level of sanctimonious self righteousness, or would that be a different situation?
Like I've stated time and time again - what possible difference would it make to me who it was? As long as they were reasonably quiet, minded their own business (as I do) and didn't do anything to call attention to themselves in a negative way, I DON'T CARE WHO THEY ARE OR WHY THEY'RE THERE.
Side Note to B5 - I have no way of knowing who pays their condo fees or not. I suppose I could call the office and check but I see no reason why they would give me anything beyond a generic answer such as "There are 9 units which are not paying their fees." There are privacy laws, I presume, which protect people from busy-body information seekers.
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Why would I do that? What possible difference could it make to me? As for knowing if my neighbors use their utilities, again, how would I know? I'd have to be actively paying attention to what they were doing and I can see no real reason for me to be doing so.
Yeah, it's real tough to see if there are ever lights on in the house or condo next door. Wha a hardship!
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Like I've stated time and time again - what possible difference would it make to me who it was? As long as they were reasonably quiet, minded their own business (as I do) and didn't do anything to call attention to themselves in a negative way, I DON'T CARE WHO THEY ARE OR WHY THEY'RE THERE.
Well you're obviously in the extreme minorty, or perhaps you're so indifferent because of the apparent slum you live in where, by your own admission, you are regularly exposed to drug dealers and party animals on a daily basis.
Meanwhile, those of us in the civilized world who live in nice neighborhoods, would never want someone to illegally occupy an adjacent property.
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Originally Posted by Mrs.PatsFanInVa
Side Note to B5 - I have no way of knowing who pays their condo fees or not. I suppose I could call the office and check but I see no reason why they would give me anything beyond a generic answer such as "There are 9 units which are not paying their fees." There are privacy laws, I presume, which protect people from busy-body information seekers.
If you're a dues paying member of an association, you have the right to know if others are paying their dues as well. There are no laws to protect the "privacy" of people from fulfilling their contractual obligations. Furthermore, the simple act of asking "are the people in unit 5 current on their dues?" could easily get the response "we don't have any residents in unit 5" which would obviously imply further investigation needed.
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack
Yeah, it's real tough to see if there are ever lights on in the house or condo next door. Wha a hardship!
Actually, in this particular condo it would be impossible unless you happened to be walking by when the door was wide open. I suppose I could go down to the street and count off the windows on some particular floor and hope I got it right but, again, why would I?
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Well you're obviously in the extreme minorty, or perhaps you're so indifferent because of the apparent slum you live in where, by your own admission, you are regularly exposed to drug dealers and party animals on a daily basis.
Is there some reason you feel obligated to respond to anything certain people say without getting ad-hom about it? I mean, really? I ignored the "intelligent people would," in your last post and you find it necessary to come back and call my home a slum in the hopes that it'll make you look like an even more cutting-edge and clever guy? I didn't say when or where I have lived next to party people or drug dealers, did I? If you must assume I mean currently, then I suppose you must - the fact that it's not true never deterred you from anything before.
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Meanwhile, those of us in the civilized world who live in nice neighborhoods, would never want someone to illegally occupy an adjacent property.
Yes, yes, good for you, WP. Good for you.
So tell me, if your neighbor of 2o years whom you've barbequed with and whose daughter babysat your kids loses his job and falls behind on his mortgage payments and has been foreclosed on and has ignored the posted warnings and continues to live there because he has no place else to go - you want his ass thrown out on the street, too, right? Because once he's exhausted all his recourses and the bank now owns his former property, he's squatting illegally and those of you in the "civilized wold of nice neighborhoods" would never want that to happen.